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rfenst
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6 years ago

Thoughts on yesterday's pardons and commutations...

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JadeRose
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6 years ago

Thoughts on yesterday's pardons and commutations...

rfenst wrote:

As a born and bred DOWN STATE Illinoisan, Blagojevich can and should rot in hell along with all the other Illinois Governors that have been sent to prison in my lifetime. I believe the count is either 4 or 5, which is pretty impressive.

I love that Dump supporters have been mostly silent about this. This Governor committed a serious and ultimately stupid felony, was caught, tried and put in prison. He's also a STAUNCH Democrat. Now, becasue Dump knows he has no shot whatsoever of ever winning Illinois, he releases this turd from prison just because Blago was a toady to him on that stupid show he had. SAD!

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DrMaddVibe
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6 years ago

It's a Presidential "perk".

Reminds me of the Monty Python skit "Bring Out Yer Dead"

Always going to piss off people regardless...because. Doesn't matter which party either.

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fishinguitarman
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6 years ago

Is that the Chattanooga Choo Choo?

victor809
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6 years ago

Thoughts on yesterday's pardons and commutations...

rfenst wrote:

Well, one of them donated 200k to trump re-election campaigns. So twitler's hands were tied, he had to grant a full pardon.

dstieger
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6 years ago

I thought Milken was a bad look.
Glad he didn't pardon Blogvich whatever...the rest....can't say i much gaf

fishinguitarman
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6 years ago

More bringing the country back together!

Thanks you queen vicki

victor809
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6 years ago

I thought Milken was a bad look.
Glad he didn't pardon Blogvich whatever...the rest....can't say i much gaf

dstieger wrote:

didn't pardon him... but commuted his sentence. I'm guessing to "done".

jjanecka
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6 years ago

I would rather have a president pardoning people than cutting off people's heads, that's for damn sure

DrMaddVibe
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6 years ago

#10

I would rather have a president pardoning people than cutting off people's heads, that's for damn sure

jjanecka wrote:

Yeah, that's third rate, er world stuff there.

victor809
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6 years ago

#11

i dunno. depends on how they're determining which heads?

jjanecka
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6 years ago

#12

Yeah, I get it, these people were all corrupt AF. I'm not disputing that.

jjanecka
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6 years ago

#13

Pardons have always been controversial though

delta1
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6 years ago

#14

saying other POTUS did some controversial pardons is like comparing a pile of dog poo with a massive elephant turd...

Trump continues to push the boundaries of conventional POTUS norms, to test his "powers" after his impeachment acquittal...like a little kid on Christmas day...

most of these pardons and commutations bring back images of his lawyers arguing during his impeachment trial that Trump's agenda was not to coerce Ukraine to do him a favor, but was to fight corruption...most of these folks committed serious acts of corruption at high levels of government or in big business...a couple were everyday folks who were associates of a previous Trump pardon...

and he's laying the ground work for more....this was just a heat check...

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victor809
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6 years ago

#15

Pardons have always been controversial though

jjanecka wrote:

You're right, and I was looking through clinton's list and some of them are ridiculous... (like...his brother)....

Weirdly trump has only pardoned/commuted like 19 sentences.
Compare that to prior presidents in the 100s to 1000s.

But of only 19, 3 were murder convictions. 2 of those of prisoners of war in our custody.

That seems to stand out.

I'm less bothered by the random corrupt people. I mean, I am... but the rich will always get away with sh#t.

jjanecka
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6 years ago

#16

One thing though Vic, most pardons occyr in a president's second term because there isn't šhit anyone can do about it.

victor809
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6 years ago

#17

delta1 wrote:

He's done some controversial pardons. But he hasn't hit the quantity Obama even did by this time in his presidency.

Now... of the 1,700 pardons obama issued, not a one was for murder. Trump's pardoned 3 people convicted of murder

victor809
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6 years ago

#18

One thing though Vic, most pardons occyr in a president's second term because there isn't šhit anyone can do about it.

jjanecka wrote:

Yeah, the really high nubmers will come later.
But he is under where obama was for this point in his presidency.
I didn't check the other presidents, because it's not that interesting a statistic.

Obama appeared (at a glance) to be pardoning a lot of drug charges tho