rfenst
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6 years ago
Clearly, there is a difference.
Are they the same group(s)?
Discuss...
DrMaddVibe
rfenst
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6 years ago

https://youtu.be/JfSKJOow-LE

DrMaddVibe wrote:


Wow.
DrMaddVibe
6 years ago

Wow.

rfenst wrote:




Yeah. That's happening. I won't even post what happened to a horse trailer being attacked by "protestors" looked like.
opelmanta1900
6 years ago
thus far on twitter I've watched UFC Champion Jon Jones confiscate spray paint from some skinny little hoodlums... watched a black woman chase own a car of white folks handing bricks to young black men, throw the brick back in the car, and dress down the occupants for trying to get black men killed... and watched a little antifa douche chipping up pieces of sidewalk to throw at police get tackled by protesters and dragged over to the line of police, a which point he was handed over kicking and screaming...

protesters are good, m'kay... and rioters, rioters are bad, m'kay...
teedubbya
6 years ago
Think the president had to get burn treatments from holding the borrowed bible?
DrMaddVibe
6 years ago

Think the president had to get burn treatments from holding the borrowed bible?

teedubbya wrote:




Nothing to do with this thread...at all.
teedubbya
6 years ago
Go find a Minotaur baby.
teedubbya
6 years ago
Notice he didn’t go in the church. Good move. His strength hasn’t grown that much yet. Give it time.
ZRX1200
6 years ago
Our local protesters decided to block traffic at a major intersection, which didn’t get the reaction they had hoped for so they moved to city hall and laid down in that street and yelled “George Floyd I can’t breathe!”. Then they started yelling at traffic there too.

There was clearly an element there to agitate but here the “good one’s” still felt blocking traffic was cool and nobody turned in a dude who threw a water bottle at a dude or anyone who kicked cars or broke windows. So here locally even our “good ones” were far too ok with those bad elements. We have multiple spots that were perfect for them to make their points, they chose a path that I don’t support.
Speyside
6 years ago
If you riot, or loot, or agitate you are no longer a protester.
teedubbya
6 years ago
Without a doubt they are going for maximum effect. The sad part is I think they step on their own message which is a valid one. Racism and police abuse does exist and is to readily accepted or ignored by too many folks. But frankly that’s lost on those that need to recognize it most when they can simply focus on the hoodlums that should get what they deserve.
teedubbya
6 years ago
Did you see trump look at the spine of the good book as if just learning how bible is spelled?
Speyside
6 years ago
Actually after yesterday TW'S comment does. Trump had cops tear gas and rush swing clubs. The protesters were peaceful. That was an obscenity which increased the violence last night therefore he is an agitator. Watching the cops rush peaceful protesters reminded me of Tienimman square. It also reinforced that Trump acts like a dictator, not a president, as did his speech.
DrMaddVibe
6 years ago

Actually after yesterday TW'S comment does. Trump had cops tear gas and rush swing clubs. The protesters were peaceful. That was an obscenity which increased the violence last night therefore he is an agitator. Watching the cops rush peaceful protesters reminded me of Tienimman square. It also reinforced that Trump acts like a dictator, not a president, as did his speech.

Speyside wrote:




From another thread...

http://www.cigarbid.com/Forum/c/posts/m/4512797/During-Fridays-White-House-Protests-Trump-Was-Taken-To-Underground-Bunker#post4512797 

They were already past the peaceful part and in one of the videos you can hear the flash bangs go off while he's speaking.

In my mind, you lose all rights to protest when you want to hurl objects at the police. Then it's just a mob.
teedubbya
6 years ago
Gassing peaceful protestors for an awkward photo op at a church he didn’t go in, hasn’t been in for about 6 months, and according to the bishop wasn’t really welcomed in under those circumstances certainly does agitate rather than anything productive.

It was peaceful. The flash bangs and gas were timed with the speech. Premeditated by the prez. Stagecraft. Watched it live. No one legitimate claims they were not peaceful. It was broad daylight, planned and live.
rfenst
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6 years ago
As long as we are headed down the path of Trump's church visit, you might want to take a take a peek at this:


Richard Nixon's visit to the Lincoln Memorial
From Wikipedia

The Lincoln Memorial at night in 2014.
In the early hours of May 9, 1970, President Richard Nixon made an unplanned visit to the Lincoln Memorial where he spoke with anti-war protestors and students for almost two hours. The protestors were conducting a vigil in protest of Nixon's recent decision to expand the Vietnam War into Cambodia and the recent deaths of students in the Kent State shootings.

Nixon had finished a press conference at 10 p.m. on May 8, in which he had been questioned about his decision to expand American operations in Cambodia as part of the Vietnam War. Nixon then made 20 telephone calls to various people including Billy Graham and Thomas E. Dewey and the NBC reporter Nancy Dickerson.[1] He then slept from 2:15 a.m. until around 4 a.m.[2]

Nixon awoke after 4 a.m. and put on a recording of Eugene Ormandy conducting Rachmaninoff at a loud volume in the Lincoln Sitting Room. This awoke his valet Manolo Sanchez. Looking at the gathering of people on the National Mall, Nixon asked Sanchez if he had ever visited the memorial at night and then told him to get dressed after Sanchez answered in the negative.[2]

Nixon, Sanchez, the senior White House doctor Walter Robert Tkach and Secret Service agents then drove to the memorial in a presidential limousine, with Nixon later recalling that he had "never seen the Secret Service quite so petrified with apprehension". Upon arrival Nixon and Sanchez walked up the steps to the statue of the seated Lincoln with Nixon pointing out the carved inscriptions of Lincoln's Second Inaugural Address and his Gettysburg Address.[2] White House Deputy for Domestic Affairs Egil Krogh was also present.[3]

Some students had recognised Nixon by now and, although surprised by his advent, walked up to him and shook his hand. Nixon said that the students "were not unfriendly" to him, but "seemed somewhat overawed". Nixon learnt that several of them attended Syracuse University, and spoke of the university's football team. Commenting later to journalists, the Syracuse University students felt that "most of what he was saying was absurd ... Here we had come from a university that's completely uptight, on strike, and when we told him where we were from, he talked about the football team."[2]

On the Vietnam War, Nixon told the students:

I hope that [your] hatred of the war, which I could well understand, would not turn into a bitter hatred of our whole system, our country and everything that it stood for. I said that I know probably most of you think I'm an SOB. But I want you to know that I understand just how you feel.[2]

He encouraged them to travel while they were young and praised the architecture of Prague and Warsaw. But a student told Nixon "We're not interested in what Prague looks like ... We're interested in what kind of life we build in the United States."[2]

Nixon then told the students that "the spiritual hunger which all of us have" which "has been the great mystery of life from the beginning of time" would not be solved by improving air quality and ending the war. A student later recalled that Nixon was barely audible and his sentences had no structure. Towards the end of the visit the crowd of students had grown to 30 and a student told Nixon, "I hope you realize that we're willing to die for what we believe in", to which he responded that "Many of us when we were your age were also willing to die for what we believe in and are willing to do so today. The point is, we are trying to build a world in which you will not have to die for what you believe in."[2]

The Secret Service agents accompanying Nixon grew concerned for his safety with the increasing crowd and tone of the exchanges with the students and pretended that a call was waiting for him in his car hoping that he would leave, but Nixon kept telling them "Let it wait". With the advent of dawn, Nixon returned to the presidential limousine, but as he walked back, "a bearded fellow from Detroit" in Nixon's words, rushed towards him and requested a photograph with him, that was duly taken by the White House doctor. Nixon said that the man from Detroit had "the broadest smile that I saw on the entire visit". Nixon then left in the presidential limousine.[2]
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victor809
6 years ago
They actually drove the priests off the church ground using teargas.

Ok.... Now I think that's pretty funny... But I don't think religious people are supposed to be using police to gas their priests so they can stand near a church.

I guess it's possible the priests were lying.... But there weren't any little boys involved so I can't see a motivation.
teedubbya
6 years ago
Hadn’t heard and don’t know about that part. I do know the bishop was appalled.

Trump is totally disconnected from reality much like Nixon was (thanks rfenst.... good read). Hopefully that is becoming obvious to more folks.
teedubbya
6 years ago
Oh and rfenst sorry if I hijacked your thread. If YOU are bothered by it I’ll cease and desist.
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