Speyside
Wednesday, September 2, 2020 4:35:12 PM
I think this is the true threat of COVID19. Look it up. There are multiple articles that show perspective on this in different manners. Otherwise I would post a link.
delta1
Wednesday, September 2, 2020 4:59:14 PM
in a nutshell: the long lasting after effects of COVID19

https://chicagohealthonline.com/in-covid-19-long-haul-syndrome-symptoms-continue-for-months/ 

"Common symptoms of long-haul syndrome include overwhelming fatigue, breathlessness during mild activities, joint pain, chest pain, racing or palpitating heart, difficulty concentrating, short term memory loss, and persistent loss of smell. Some report mental health symptoms, including chronic stress. Many are unable to return to jobs or the active lives to which they had been accustomed."

8trackdisco
Wednesday, September 2, 2020 5:04:22 PM
frankj1
Wednesday, September 2, 2020 5:25:27 PM
I know a couple that got infected on a cruise in February, took a while to get tested and diagnosed. Both recovered after quite a while but have lingering problems.

Both in their 60's (sorry, that is not old), he is a very strong man, works long hours in the fish business.

Wife is overweight, possibly already had a bit of asthma.

seven months later:

Husband still suffers from headaches and an earache, seems to have balance issues too.

Wife will have lung problems for who knows how long, and has been dealing with a painful raised area on her skull along with alopecia.

Have heard far worse about others but I do not know those people personally.

delta1
Wednesday, September 2, 2020 5:35:32 PM
it's gonna magically disappear...
ZRX1200
Wednesday, September 2, 2020 5:41:55 PM
November 4th
frankj1
Wednesday, September 2, 2020 7:30:56 PM
if that's the over/under...HA!
HockeyDad
Wednesday, September 2, 2020 7:38:32 PM
If there is a vaccine before November it is going to be hysterical to watch all the Democrats become temporary anti-Vaccers
frankj1
Wednesday, September 2, 2020 7:41:17 PM

If there is a vaccine before November it is going to be hysterical to watch all the Democrats become temporary anti-Vaccers

HockeyDad wrote:

delta, there must have been a leak at our last strategy session!

delta1
Wednesday, September 2, 2020 7:43:59 PM
you think it was that red headed quiet guy in the back corner, near the punch bowl? didn't say a word the entire time, and his watch looked unusually large...
frankj1
Wednesday, September 2, 2020 7:46:01 PM
was he leaking or crying?
victor809
Wednesday, September 2, 2020 7:47:41 PM

If there is a vaccine before November it is going to be hysterical to watch all the Democrats become temporary anti-Vaccers

HockeyDad wrote:

That's an easy prognostication to make.

Any vaccine that's "ready" by the end of this year is going to have to cut a lot of corners in FDA approval.... a ridiculous number of corners. Enough that I would want to see the actual trial data before injecting it in myself. I seriously doubt you would trust a vaccine that runs through testing that quickly either.

Now don't get me wrong... I'll support anyone else taking it. That'll help create a herd immunity to protect me, and put the risk on them. But I prefer my drugs to be tested.

Given that trump supporters are willing to start taking HCQ, bleach and that other poison the instant he suggests it will work, I have no doubt they'll be willing to take the vaccine.

So yeah... there'll be a split in opinion again. One group that would rather wait until there's scientific evidence that it's safe and effective.... and the republicans.

delta1
Wednesday, September 2, 2020 7:53:36 PM

was he leaking or crying?

frankj1 wrote:

didn't see any tears, but he did have a wet spot in the front of his pants...

don't ask...

HockeyDad
Wednesday, September 2, 2020 8:20:49 PM

Given that trump supporters are willing to start taking HCQ, bleach and that other poison the instant he suggests it will work, I have no doubt they'll be willing to take the vaccine.

victor809 wrote:

The problem with that theory is that none of that stuff actually happened. We have to fall back on the science which is Covid-19 disproportionately kills Democrats with pre-existing conditions. This may lead to the Democrats taking the vaccine in high quantities after November 4 and Republicans gain herd immunity by sitting back and watching and planning the inauguration parties.

delta1
Wednesday, September 2, 2020 8:28:48 PM
hehe...so nefarious...I'm tempted to switch
tonygraz
Wednesday, September 2, 2020 9:15:28 PM
I have no doubt that trump will try to force a vaccine before the election, not caring if it is safe or effective or if it harms or kills those that take it. I'm with Vic, no vaccine until it goes though the usual trials.
HockeyDad
Wednesday, September 2, 2020 9:17:49 PM
On the bright side, you are all alive. You made it through thanks to the actions and inactions of President Trump.
frankj1
Wednesday, September 2, 2020 9:56:32 PM
so, you (not you HD) don't trust (medical) science but drop conventional steps that insure safety to rush it to market before the looming election?

That takes a chit load of faith in science, no?

Which is it, faith in science or not?

It's neither. It's an election that must be won.

I'm not even a Democrat, but I'll wait...and despite preconceived notions from the right aisle, I hope it works.

ZRX1200
Wednesday, September 2, 2020 9:59:19 PM
The other SARS COVID vaccines are so effective......it’s inevitable!
8trackdisco
Wednesday, September 2, 2020 10:01:19 PM

If there is a vaccine before November it is going to be hysterical to watch all the Democrats become temporary anti-Vaccers

HockeyDad wrote:

Maybe we could get all the far left people the completed phase 2.5 trial tested Putin version, and the far right they can’t have it.

Left get Safe.

Right gets in the heard.

An insignificant number of insignificant extremists get culled from both herds.

Win win.