He has abused the constitution regularly during his term. Yet it the end it prevailed. One hell of a document our forefathers wrote. Many people over the years have tried to subvert it, yet in the end none have. Kudos to all the judges that protect our constitution and laws.

Speyside wrote:

"I believe that banking institutions are more dangerous to our liberties than standing armies," - Thomas Jefferson

DrMaddVibe wrote:

You really hate Hamilton... you talk crap about him all the time...

He did a lot of good by all accounts, granted he doesn't fit RayRay's ideal anarchistic vision, but what is it you hate about him exactly?

* From my understanding he was anti-slavery for morality reasons (I'm sure you'll twist that into something).

* He was pro constitution, with one of many arguments of being able to strike bs laws down as unconstitutional.

* He's one of the Founding Fathers...

* And he's on the 10 dollar bill!

* You talk about the framers all the time... he was instrumental in the development of our country.

I know in your ideal world, everyone just shuts the f*ck up and complies, but that's not the really real world... there are many people with many ideas, and they're all different... they don't all agree with you... if they did, wouldn't that be weird?

So what I want to know is... what makes yours so f*cking special? ... when I say yours, I mean yours in it's entirety. As it is all or nothing with you... So what makes it so much better than anyone else's ideal world? Because it's yours?

All that is more rhetorical... I know I'll get a long winded answer, but I know it will all just be more of the same.

One thing I'm certain of when it came to the Framers... each one individually knew the rest of the Framers were a bunch of sh*t heads that couldn't be trusted... why do you think there's all those checks and balances?

bgz wrote:

Where did I say crimes? I said abuse, totally different meaning.

Speyside wrote:

Since you have an aversion to old dead guy history, where did you git yer edumication?

Hamilton supposedly was against slavery but that didn't stop him for buying and selling slaves for his family or being involved with the slave trade when working as a lad on the sugar plantation. Hamilton was what you progressives call "pragmatic".😁

Hamilton was 'pro constitution"? I guess if you are the type that believes everything anybody says without seeing the any contradictions and or see what they actually did, then you would come to that conclusion. Hamilton was a conniving, lying double-talking scoundrel. He was the original "living constitution" guy, he wasn't for a republic of sovereign states and a general government of limited defined powers. "Hamilton Lied and the Constitution Died"
He wasn't even a capitalist, he was a mercantilist, he wanted to mold the American economy into a copy the the British economy where a government connected privileged upper class got all the monopolistic perks at the expense of the proles. No, the Founding Fathers were not all saintly figures.

https://www.abbevilleinstitute.org/review/how-alexander-hamilton-screwed-up-america/ 

RayR wrote:

Pretty sure none of them were saintly and all of them were pompous sh*t heads. You can believe what you want... pretty sure I'm right...

bgz wrote:

If you are looking for pompous sh*t heads, look no further than the present.
The ruling political class is full of pompous sh*t headedness like never before and da people vote willingly for pompous sh*t heads. I believe they think it's a positive personality trait.:-k

RayR wrote:

I'm a software engineer... if it's true for 1, and you can show it's true for n and n+1, then it's true.

Show me a time in history where rulers weren't pompous sh*t heads, and I might be open to the possibility that only our current rulers are pompous sh*t heads.

Good luck.

bgz wrote:

Checks and balances exist because we rightfully shouldn't trust each other to make good decisions.

bgz wrote:

You're so trusting, how sweet and innocent.🌈🦄🌼

NOT BY ME SUCKA, I NEVER TRUST A POMPOUS SH*T HEAD PROGRESSIVE, THAT WOULD BE DUMB! BUT I DO TRUST A POMPOUS SH*THEAD CON!

[ram27bat]

RayR wrote: