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2 years ago
The Georgia Republican files to oust Speaker Johnson, saying he’s ‘in the arms of Democrats.’


WSJ Editorial Board

Speaker Mike Johnson claimed a victory for sanity Friday, when the House voted 286-134 to do its basic job of funding the government, rather than blunder into a pointless shutdown that would backfire on Republicans, or else pass further interim spending bills that hurt the U.S. military. Yet try telling that to Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene.

Raging about betrayal on Friday, Ms. Greene filed a motion to oust Mr. Johnson. “We have to find a new Speaker of the House,” she said. And if Democrats cross the aisle to keep Mr. Johnson in power? “He’s already in the arms of Democrats,” she replied. She called the legislation to fund the government “a Democrat bill” and “a Chuck Schumer bill.”

More Republicans voted no than yes, but understand political reality. Two years ago the GOP won the House by a historically narrow margin. If they’d stuck together, they could have used that leverage to extract more policy concessions from the Democrats who control the Senate and White House. But Ms. Greene and her faction are most interested in TV hits and internet donors. And once the GOP needs Democratic votes to pass a bill in the House, that gives even more leverage to Democrats.

This is the political position former Speaker Kevin McCarthy found himself in, and the GOP firebrands ousted him for it. They elected Mr. Johnson, saying he was a true conservative and not some squish, but now he’s getting the same treatment. Mr. Johnson’s sin is that he can do math.

Politics isn’t the art of the impossible, but Ms. Greene and her crew of vandals prefer to scream and throw soup at the walls, like those climate-change protesters who think their ludicrous gestures are accomplishing something. They have no strategy for achieving the conservative victories they claim to want, beyond shutting down the government and shouting for the cameras that everyone else is a sellout.

Ms. Greene on Friday called her motion to vacate the Speaker’s chair “more of a warning than a pink slip,” and the House will go on recess for two weeks. When it returns, Mr. Johnson will have to decide whether to take up an aid bill for Ukraine, Israel, and Taiwan. Ms. Greene is essentially ordering the Speaker to forsake American allies that need U.S. military help, or she’ll pull the trigger on her motion.

But after the weeks of tumult last fall following Mr. McCarthy’s removal, even Ms. Greene’s putative allies might be skeptical. Is this the vision for GOP governance that House Republicans want to offer in an election year? If Mr. Johnson isn’t conservative enough to succeed as Speaker, who would be? Call her bluff.
DrMaddVibe
2 years ago
The more that tumbles out of this bill...I can see why she's pissed. I am too. The spending is out of control!

https://reason.com/2024/03/06/the-budget-deal-is-overflowing-with-12-billion-of-earmarks/ [/i][/color]
MACS
2 years ago
^^Yeah. She's not wrong.
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2 years ago
Burn it all down!!
Abrignac
2 years ago
I’d be interested in seeing what happens to the outrage when one sees what represents roughly 80% of the $1.2B being spent.
RayR
2 years ago
Ya, tons of pork, and not just domestic unconstitutional spending.
SAME OLD SAME OLD bipartisan STUPID and EVIL.

Democrats are celebrating the heist, Well, at least the feckless Republicans included a new rule preventing the Consumer Product Safety Commission from banning gas stoves and allowing U.S. embassies to fly only the American flag or other official flags, excluding pride flags.

DrMaddVibe
2 years ago

Burn it all down!!

rfenst wrote:




INSURRECTION OUTRAGE!

Reported to Whitehouse.gov.
DrMaddVibe
2 years ago

Ya, tons of pork, and not just domestic unconstitutional spending.
SAME OLD SAME OLD bipartisan STUPID and EVIL.

Democrats are celebrating the heist, Well, at least the feckless Republicans included a new rule preventing the Consumer Product Safety Commission from banning gas stoves and allowing U.S. embassies to fly only the American flag or other official flags, excluding pride flags.

RayR wrote:




Remember when Congreas voted to end riders?

Yeah. About that...
Mr. Jones
2 years ago
Remember???

"Shovel ready jobs" 5 ? Trillion 2008 bail out bill?

Bath house Barry...( the greenlighter of mr. Jones FOR Over 9+ murder attempts by the FBI-SSG gangstalking fiasco???, I SURE F##KING DOOOOO)
NEW TO THE JOB...WE MUST PASS IT OR WE WILL ALL DIE IN A DEPRESSION...AND NANCY " GREY GOOSE 1.75L HANDLE A DAY CONSUMER" aLLedGeDly..."we must pass it even if you haven't read it"...

This sounds just like that...

But MTG HAS a greasy face and is missing a few chromosomes that are replaced by cro-magnon varieties...which means she doesn't know...

Deeeeeeeekkkkk...

She is a MORON...aLLedGeDly
8trackdisco
2 years ago

The more that tumbles out of this bill...I can see why she's pissed. I am too. The spending is out of control!

https://reason.com/2024/03/06/the-budget-deal-is-overflowing-with-12-billion-of-earmarks/ [/i][/color]

DrMaddVibe wrote:



The article was dated March 6th, right?
Do we know if the bill done a couple of days ago is exactly the same?

As for MTG, for better and worse, she represents her constituents.
Glad my congressman represented us by not only leaving the chit show, leaving it early.
He doesn't want the current disfunctional Republican Stink on him, in case he has larger aspirations.

The guy that leads the committee on China is walking away.

It starts by tearing ourselves apart from the inside, then the foreign enemies make their move.
8trackdisco
2 years ago
As far as ousting Johnson, why not?
Just in case people were starting to forget how disunctional and unable to successfully govern Republicans have become, a speaker overthrow will be a nice reminder to undecided voters.
Abrignac
2 years ago
Lot's of interesting details if one looks a bit more deeply.

Ms. Mayhem herself inserted 9 line items to the tune of $10,351,520.

Oh and remember Rep Matt Gaetz (R) of Florida? You know the guy who led the ouster of McCarthy for putting forth a pork laden spending bill? Well, he earmarked $50,000,000.

Pots meet kettles.
8trackdisco
2 years ago

Lot's of interesting details if one looks a bit more deeply.

Ms. Mayhem herself inserted 9 line items to the tune of $10,351,520.

Oh and remember Rep Matt Gaetz (R) of Florida? You know the guy who led the ouster of McCarthy for putting forth a pork laden spending bill? Well, he earmarked $50,000,000.

Pots meet kettles.

Abrignac wrote:



Ant,
Where did you find that info?
Abrignac
2 years ago

Ant,
Where did you find that info?

8trackdisco wrote:



Go to the article John linked. In it there is a link to “6000”. Follow that link. It’s an item by item breakdown of the individual earmarks, state where it’s going and who inserted it into the bill.

Here is the direct link:
https://appropriations.house.gov/fiscal-year-2024-community-project-funding 

On that page you’ll find links to multiple PDF’s. To see who inserted what open them and use the search function.
8trackdisco
2 years ago

Go to the article John linked. In it there is a link to “6000”. Follow that link. It’s an item by item breakdown of the individual earmarks, state where it’s going and who inserted it into the bill.

Here is the direct link:
https://appropriations.house.gov/fiscal-year-2024-community-project-funding 

On that page you’ll find links to multiple PDF’s. To see who inserted what open them and use the search function.

Abrignac wrote:



If you are using John's link, it may not be the same bill presented at the end of last week. Regardless, I appreciate you providing content with context.
Abrignac
2 years ago

If you are using John's link, it may not be the same bill presented at the end of last week. Regardless, I appreciate you providing content with context.

8trackdisco wrote:



It links to the House Appropriations Committee. I’d have to double check but I’m pretty sure it is current.
Gene363
2 years ago
Keep fusing the toilet until it's turd free.
RayR
2 years ago
I heard they had to pass the bill so they could find out what's in it. 🍺

“It’s a mistake just to change the person. If you don’t change the structure of this place, you won’t get any different outcome.” - Rep. Thomas Massie


GOP said Congress would cut spending. Rep. Massie on how it broke down.

By Christa Case Bryant Staff writer

It’s impossible to look at Rep. Thomas Massie of Kentucky without thinking about the national debt. And that’s by design.

The MIT engineer put in three 15-hour days writing 1,000 lines of code to create the little gadget clipped to his lapel. In numbers reminiscent of a gas station pump – in a font he designed pixel by pixel – it displays just how much the United States owes now…. And now…. And now.

The orange digits at the end whir so fast they’re blurry. In the hour-plus we spent talking in the ornate Speaker’s Lobby this week, the United States descended $350 million deeper into the red.

The national debt is now at a record high of nearly $34.6 trillion. And today, the GOP-run House authorized the government to spend another $1.2 trillion that it doesn’t have. Meanwhile, Mr. Massie, a Kentucky libertarian who voted “no” on today's funding bill, has learned a thing or two about what works – and doesn’t work – to rein in spending since he rode the Tea Party wave to Congress a dozen years ago.

As Washington concludes yet another budget cycle with a pricey, rushed bill that was negotiated largely behind closed doors, he reflects on how the GOP set out to do things differently 15 months ago, and where it all broke down.

An inventor turned cattle farmer who built his off-the-grid homestead with logs from his property, Mr. Massie stood out from the start for his willingness to go against the grain. He challenged his own party. He wrote the motion that in 2015 pushed out GOP Speaker John Boehner, who ran afoul of hardline conservatives. He flouted longstanding norms, earning monikers from “anarchist” to “the most hated man in Washington,” when he forced all of Congress to return to Washington in the early days of the pandemic to vote in person on a $2.2 trillion stimulus package.

Then-President Donald Trump called and chewed him out as the House was voting.

Along the way, Mr. Massie mastered a Trump impression worthy of Saturday Night Live. (“I just have to say, you’ve come such a very long way since the screaming at you,” he intones, mimicking the former president’s backhanded endorsement of him after their blowout.)

More...

https://www.csmonitor.com/USA/Politics/2024/0322/GOP-said-Congress-would-cut-spending.-Rep.-Massie-on-how-it-broke-down 

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