Gene363
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2 years ago
Troubling details emerge in ATF's killing of man allegedly "engaged in the business" of selling guns.

Arkansas airport executive killed in shootout was under investigation for weapons sales
Bryan Malinowski, executive director of Bill and Hillary Clinton National Airport in Little Rock, was fatally wounded in a shootout as ATF agents tried to serve a search warrant at his home.



Another victim of the ATF murder squad. The ATF only had a search warrant and could have executed the warrant when no one was home. They cover up his security camera drrobell, smashed in the door.

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RayR
2 years ago
The ATF, part of the American DemoBolshevik Stasi
HockeyDad
2 years ago
The mistakenly thought it was Donald Trump.
ZRX1200
2 years ago
After Waco they figured their ongoing events should have fewer unalives per event and fewer bbq children.
Mr. Jones
2 years ago
No cameras
No video tape
No audio tape
NO NON-ALPHABET WITNESSES

EQUALS

N.O. C.R.I.M.E.

And more importantly....

The AMERICAN STASI CONSORTIUM ( FBI, SSG, ATF, FMS, ICE, JSOC) ALL TAKE OATHS....

NOBODY RATS, NOBODY CONFESSES TO ANYTHING OR YOU HAVE AN UNFORTUNATE FATAL ACCIDENT...
jeebling
2 years ago

Troubling details emerge in ATF's killing of man allegedly "engaged in the business" of selling guns.



Another victim of the ATF murder squad. The ATF only had a search warrant and could have executed the warrant when no one was home. They cover up his security camera drrobell, smashed in the door.

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Gene363 wrote:



School me on why the ATF or any Law Enforcement agency would render security cameras inoperable / ineffective. Is there a reason? If not, I think it should be illegal for law enforcement to tamper with security cameras. But, I don’t know the law or the valid argument of doing such a thing. I’m curious.
Gene363
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2 years ago

School me on why the ATF or any Law Enforcement agency would render security cameras inoperable / ineffective. Is there a reason? If not, I think it should be illegal for law enforcement to tamper with security cameras. But, I don’t know the law or the valid argument of doing such a thing. I’m curious.

jeebling wrote:



I can think of no reason other than they didn't want a record. As far as waring the residents, taping the lease would cause the doorbell system to warn them so if they claim it's for the ATF's safety it BS.

From the video it appears the ATF is using RF jammers to block cellphone/internet/alarm signals during a raid.
jeebling
2 years ago
Unless the SWAT team is trying to free hostages from an active shooter or something extreme like that then I say it should be illegal. Serving a warrant is not permission to mess with people’s stuff or their right to document what happens on their property. A warrant is supposed to be specific if I’m not mistaken.
Abrignac
2 years ago

Troubling details emerge in ATF's killing of man allegedly "engaged in the business" of selling guns.



Another victim of the ATF murder squad. The ATF only had a search warrant and could have executed the warrant when no one was home. They cover up his security camera drrobell, smashed in the door.

Video:


Gene363 wrote:



Too few details publicly available to decide if actions taken by ATF agents were or were not legal. To take that a step further I’d say just because something is legal doesn’t make it right.

I read the warrant. It’s posted here for anyone interested.

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Vjer4Tr0SJhe6ZzkUDgkjaho4PHIg1KP/view 

The warrant lists an address, two cell phones and other unlisted electronic devices.

I scanned the warrant and I believe based on my training and experience the warrant provided evidence to suggest he was selling firearms without conducting required background checks and maintaining required sales logs. Whether one agrees with the relevant laws is immaterial since it’s the law until repealed or ruled unconstitutional.

As far as execution of the warrant I’m not convinced it was properly planned and as such it went side ways very quickly. I’m looking at this from the standpoint of what would the average person do when confronted with similar circumstances. I’d also like to hear the reason for covering the eyehole. Did he have a reasonable fear of being robbed and decided to stand his ground? He apparently dealt with some shady characters.

Agents executing a warrant have to balance the possible reaction of those present when the warrant is executed with a compelling need to preserve evidence. The reason for a planned and quickly executed entrance to a property listed in the warrant does multiple things. First a quick and surprise entrance is desired to allow agents to quickly overcome all present and establish control which makes it safe for all, residents and agents. It also prevents destruction of evidence of a crime. In some cases it’s also to save life and limb of a person held against their will.

Every year thousands of warrants are executed under the same guidelines and all goes according to plan. But occasionally we have a Waco, Ruby Ridge or this. Before I make a judgement I’d like to see the investigation run its course and let the facts speak for themselves.
Abrignac
2 years ago

Unless the SWAT team is trying to free hostages from an active shooter or something extreme like that then I say it should be illegal. Serving a warrant is not permission to mess with people’s stuff or their right to document what happens on their property. A warrant is supposed to be specific if I’m not mistaken.

jeebling wrote:



My friend I don’t mean to be untoward but a warrant is explicit permission for LEO’s to “mess with people’s stuff”. Its very clearly spelled out in the 4th Amendment.
jeebling
2 years ago
I understand that that is what the warrant is for. But I thought it was supposed to be for certain things and not whatever the LEOs felt like tampering with. Maybe I watch too many crime dramas lol
Abrignac
2 years ago

I understand that that is what the warrant is for. But I thought it was supposed to be for certain things and not whatever the LEOs felt like tampering with. Maybe I watch too many crime dramas lol

jeebling wrote:



Think of it like this. The warrant specified 2 cell phones. So agents executing that warrant can look anywhere there is space large enough to hold a cellphone. The reality is since a cell phone can fit inside any shoe box, cabinet drawer, etc... those spaces are fair game to look.

It the warrant specifies the search is for marijuana, then image how small a space that can contain a single flake of marijuana. In a scenario such as that, they can pretty much look anywhere; inside folded socks, inside a box of matches, etc...
Gene363
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2 years ago
I'd be wiling to bet the dead guy would have handed over his phones if asked and shown the warrant.

The ATF believed this guy was selling guns and they know people with guns get ripped off, WTF did they think this guy was going to do when the bashed in his door in the middle of the night.

They also knew he was the head of security at city/local airport, in the video it's mentioned he was the highest paid employee at the airport, $200k/year, he was not a gang banger or typical criminal element. The whole thing stinks to high heaven.

Just like Waco, the local LE said they could find him at the local burger shop any week, but no, the ATF has to go in a manner that guaranteed a confrontation..
Abrignac
2 years ago

I'd be wiling to bet the dead guy would have handed over his phones if asked and shown the warrant.

Maybe, maybe not

The ATF believed this guy was selling guns and they know people with guns get ripped off, WTF did they think this guy was going to do when the bashed in his door in the middle of the night.

Totally agree. This is always a risk and steps must be taken to address this possibility.

They also knew he was the head of security at city/local airport, in the video it's mentioned he was the highest paid employee at the airport, $200k/year, he was not a gang banger or typical criminal element. The whole thing stinks to high heaven.

This is really not relevant. One would be surprised to learn of the number of highly paid upstanding pillars of the community that are engaged in some shady activities.

Just like Waco, the local LE said they could find him at the local burger shop any week, but no, the ATF has to go in a manner that guaranteed a confrontation..

Warrant execution in public places is a risky endeavor for a variety of reasons. One can never predict the reaction of a suspect when confronted. Some will peacefully cooperate while others will draw weapons and fire without regard to innocent bystanders. So confronting him in a burger joint with other customers present is really not such a great idea.

Gene363 wrote:



There is no doubt that something bad happened and I certainly have questions.

One of which is why did they place tape over the doorbell camera?

Another being why weren't the agents wearing body cams? On September 1, 2021 Merrick Garland announced that the launch of a Justice Department policy that requires department law enforcement personnel use body-worn cameras (BWCs) during pre-planned law enforcement operations. Then on May 22, 2022 Biden signed Executive Order 14074. Section 13 requires agency heads to develop body camera use protocols. Unfortunately there is no hard deadline for implementation. It's ridiculous that patrol officers in rural areas have body cameras, many bought using federal grants, yet Federal LEO's executing warrants don't have them.

This absolutely is another example of questionable federal LEO operations. But, more facts are needed to determine what really happened.
ZRX1200
2 years ago
There is video of them preparing and calling it off because he was at work. It was a search warrant not an arrest warrant. I’ve never heard of a no knock search warrant.

This was entirely avoidable to the point the tape and no body cams show the real purpose.
jeebling
2 years ago

Think of it like this. The warrant specified 2 cell phones. So agents executing that warrant can look anywhere there is space large enough to hold a cellphone. The reality is since a cell phone can fit inside any shoe box, cabinet drawer, etc... those spaces are fair game to look.

It the warrant specifies the search is for marijuana, then image how small a space that can contain a single flake of marijuana. In a scenario such as that, they can pretty much look anywhere; inside folded socks, inside a box of matches, etc...

Abrignac wrote:



Ah yes, I see your point. No matter how “narrow” the warrant is it still leaves a very broad scope of things they can look into or mess with. Thanks.
Abrignac
2 years ago

There is video of them preparing and calling it off because he was at work. It was a search warrant not an arrest warrant. I’ve never heard of a no knock search warrant.

This was entirely avoidable to the point the tape and no body cams show the real purpose.

ZRX1200 wrote:



Actually “no knock” search warrants are legal and used when circumstances suggest doing so is the best course of action.

What purpose does the tape and no body cams show?
ZRX1200
2 years ago
What purpose does serving a search warrant when someone is home you’re that worried about when you passed on doing it when just his wife was home….

Maybe you should keep up on the current purposed rules that aren’t law, but get things like this in motion.
Abrignac
2 years ago

What purpose does serving a search warrant when someone is home you’re that worried about when you passed on doing it when just his wife was home….

Huh???

Maybe you should keep up on the current purposed rules that aren’t law, but get things like this in motion.

What are you talking about?

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