Apparently the media pundits are saying the SCOTUS punted and kicked it back to the trial court to sort out everything without giving them any guidance. That is a completely bullshit assessment. The ruling itself is 119 pages. I’ve only made to page 5 so far but they are taking it bit by bit and ruling on different alleged acts and stating whether he has full immunity, presumed immunity or no immunity for particular acts as well as giving reasons for those decisions.

https://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/23pdf/23-939_e2pg.pdf 

Once again the pundits can’t be trusted to give an accurate assessment.

Abrignac wrote:

Any surviving charges will be appealed delaying the outcome for years after his presidency This is will stall everything until after the election and for the next four years his presidency. At that point he will be it will be to late to effectively take him to trial. Read Brown's and Sotomayor's dissents. You will get another god perspective of what I an trying to convey about available and admissible evidence.

rfenst wrote:

First and foremost the SCOTUS stated it’s the court of last review, not first review and it would not rule on particular issues until those issues had been addressed by the trial court.

Afterwards the SCOTUS said that Trump had the right to fire the AG for any purpose so in terms of the threat to fire him if he didn’t go along Trump is immune. His discussions with Pence are presumed to be official as the VP is first in line in should the President be unable to perform his duties so it’s presumed he has immunity but it’s up to the trial court to explore those discussions to determine if the cell with the context of official business. Part of the job of the President is to confer messages to the people. As such his speech’s, tweets etc are considered to be in the realm of the outer duties of his office and as such he is presumed to be immune. Finally with respect to contacting various state election officials that deals with transfer of power and as such is presumed to be immune.

For the items where he is presumed to be immune they were remanded to the trial court to expire whether or not his actual conduct could be considered official. If so then he would be immune.

But in no instance did the SCOTUS outright declare him to not be immune for any action in the indictment.

Abrignac wrote:

First and foremost the SCOTUS stated it’s the court of last review, not first review and it would not rule on particular issues until those issues had been addressed by the trial court.

Afterwards the SCOTUS said that Trump had the right to fire the AG for any purpose so in terms of the threat to fire him if he didn’t go along Trump is immune. His discussions with Pence are presumed to be official as the VP is first in line in should the President be unable to perform his duties so it’s presumed he has immunity but it’s up to the trial court to explore those discussions to determine if the cell with the context of official business. Part of the job of the President is to confer messages to the people. As such his speech’s, tweets etc are considered to be in the realm of the outer duties of his office and as such he is presumed to be immune. Finally with respect to contacting various state election officials that deals with transfer of power and as such is presumed to be immune.

For the items where he is presumed to be immune they were remanded to the trial court to expire whether or not his actual conduct could be considered official. If so then he would be immune.

But in no instance did the SCOTUS outright declare him to not be immune for any action in the indictment.

Abrignac wrote:

Any surviving charges will be appealed delaying the outcome for years after his presidency This is will stall everything until after the election and for the next four years his presidency. At that point he will be it will be to late to effectively take him to trial. Read Brown's and Sotomayor's dissents. You will get another god perspective of what I an trying to convey about available and admissible evidence.

rfenst wrote: