He test drove a car to make sure it was what he wanted. He had narrowed it down between a Honda Accord and a Subaru Crosstrek. Since I have an Accord and he drove it to the Subaru dealership the Accord test drive was completed.

When we went in to do the deal I explained to the sales lady that I’d sold cars for years and knew the routine. Also told her I’d done my research on cost etc. then told her almost verbatim that this was going to be quickest sale she ever made or she was going to witness the quickest someone has walked out. Afterwards I told her to go get the best deal her manager could live with and if it was agreeable my son would sign off. If not we were going to get up and walk out. I told her I was too tired to f around.

She got up and came back about 5 minutes later with a deal knocking $500 off a $30,326 factory sticker. Needless to say her jaw dropped faster than the panties on a hooker on quaaludes when I said “Let’s go” to my son.

Pulled out and pulled over about a mile down the road. Called the next closest dealership and spoke directly to the manager. Told him what were we’re interested in and negotiated a deal that was $250 over invoice on a car that was about $300 more due to a bumper cover and something else. Once everything was agreed on my son did the credit app and got approved over the phone on the way there.

Once there we extended the factory warranty out to 6 years 100k miles and added GAP coverage for another $100 over cost. He financed it at the dealer’s actual buy rate. Most of the time the dealer makes 2-5 points on the loan.

Al in all my son got a great deal and has a brand new dependable car. Now I have to get his broke down Mustang towed to my house, free thanks to tow coverage on his auto insurance, so I can chase down the short that drained a new battery in less than an hour. Then have it detailed so I can sell it for him.

negotiations start at dealer cost cuz there is no such thing as MSRP...

Should have gotten a BMW.

I hear good things about Teslas.

That's a number they pull straight outa their collective rectums.

Pops was never a dealer, but that was his tactic. It was always amusing to see the salesman's face when they realized they'd wasted the one shot they had

Nice!

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His first car was a 530i. Overpriced well engineered vehicle that substituted plastic for steel in critical components which led to premature system failures usually right after the warranty expired.

Great deal Ant!!!

I've had decent luck using the Costco new car auto buying program...bought our last 3 cars using that service...

decide what car you want and how equipped...call the Costco approved dealerships to determine if they have the car you want...make appt with the Costco sales manager ...average sales price is about $350 over dealer invoice...

If paying a 20% premium for a similar equipped automobile, paying 1/3 less to fuel a car that runs on “free fuel” and looking forward to selling used car that retains 20-30% less value than its competitors is a good thing then yea I guess you have heard “good” things about them?

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An easier approach is to find the vehicle your interested in,research dealer cost,pre-arrange financing..................then call your hunting buddy who's been with Toyota Corp for about 25 years and get a banging deal.Whether Jimmy worked for Toyota or not I'd still drive them,never had much luck with longevity or resale value in Murican made autos.

and then pull another one out and call it a discount!

Always been more of a Toyota guy myself but when I had to turn in my company car (…RAV4…) found a deal on a used Honda CR-V that I couldn’t pass up so made the switch. The fit and finish of Toyotas are, imho, better than Honda but so far my CR-V has been rock solid.

I remember when my wife and I both decided we needed new cars. I did the research and went to the dealership. When the salesman came out and asked if I needed any help I told him I wanted to buy 2 cars and what options I wanted on each and how much I would pay for them. He went in and talked to the manager and we got the deal.- no financing involved.
I don't know if this is still in force, but dealers actually paid less that the invoice through what they call hold back.

hold back works for the buyer

Almost like someone remembers you bitching about how much a brake job ran from the dealership so somebody’s dad did it himself….🤣

Yeah, but who is going to believe that?

Only the deranged

We have four cars, all Hondas . Been that way for the last 15+ years. During that time have bought approx. 20 Hondas.

They are three-year leases that can be extended an extra six (6) months out to 42 months. I average buying about 1.3 vehicles per year. Zero ($) down only.

Only lease a new one towards the end of the lease and when the exact car we want is on monthly factory sale with a real good price and decent finance charge. Has worked well EVERY SINGLE TIME!

My last, car a Honda Sport Special Edition (every 10 years) had $6,000 equity with having put zero down and rolling my equity into my next car.

I have read that this is common with Honda, Volvos and Porsches

YMMV.

I’ve never liked car dealers. Could prolly tell a dozen stories about them trying to screw me around. There is a reason people make jokes about used car salesman.

As much fun as it is to do steely eyed negotiation and catch them trying to bone you, last time I bypassed the entire process. Ordering direct from the car maker was a so much better experience. I configured the exact options I wanted. Knew the final price upfront. And ordered online. Did all of the paper work at home on my phone/tablet - even the trade in. And when they delivered, they honored the price when I ordered, even though the current price had gone up several thousand dollars. No last minute destination fee, dealer prep fee, administrative fee, bend over fee….

Maybe some of you all have good things to say about the dealers. But I say get rid of the lot of them. They inflate the cost of the car and add no value - but you will pay them their cut one way or another.