Mr. Jones
a year ago
He's ALL FOR THE MILITARY...

Let's cut the VA FUNDING AND PERSONNEL... TO GIVE JAMIE DIMON another $250 MILLION BONUS & HIS BOKERAGE/BANK A BILLION $ tax break so he can hire Janet yellen to give HER another 120 minute speech for $750 k L.A.R.G.E. $$$...
AND THE "SAPS" WHO WENT TO VEITNAM...AGENT ORANGE DISABLED VETS WHO NEED HELP...
ALL THE "SAPS" FORCED to burn toxic chems in burn pits in the sand box...
All the "SAPS" who breathed Kuwait burning oil wells for 18 months...
All the "SAPS " from roadside IED's in Iraq and Afghanistan with half their cranium gone , Paraplegics and quadraplegics...

SEEMS like everything he said he wouldn't touch...is getting "drawn and quartered" like that WATER BUFFALO AT COLONEL KUrTZ's compound/ TEMPLE IN the APOCALYPSE NOW ending...

HACK , HACK, CUT , CUT AND DIE...
MACS
a year ago
To be fair, there's a whole lot of "do-nothings" working for the VA. Lots of redundancy and positions that are certainly unnecessary.

Make an appointment. Show up 15 minutes prior to see that I have to "take a number". Then my number is called... I check in. It's called again, I go to my appointment. WTF?? Why make an appointment if I am going to "take a number"?

That was just for a frickin' blood draw...

ZERO outrage from me.
drglnc
a year ago

To be fair, there's a whole lot of "do-nothings" working for the VA. Lots of redundancy and positions that are certainly unnecessary.

Make an appointment. Show up 15 minutes prior to see that I have to "take a number". Then my number is called... I check in. It's called again, I go to my appointment. WTF?? Why make an appointment if I am going to "take a number"?

That was just for a frickin' blood draw...

ZERO outrage from me.

MACS wrote:



and you somehow think that cutting almost 20% of the workforce from va will improve the wait time? the reason they make an appointment is to insure they are not inundated with walk ins, this system is no different then a reg doc office.... make an appointment then wait for anywhere from 5 minutes to an hour or more depending on how the docs schedule is running for the day.... so they added an extra ticket. prob unnecessary but if it keeps them on track then so be it...
ZRX1200
a year ago
My step mother is retired from the VA, T she would have loved to be able to fire 20% of her dept.
Gene363
a year ago
Cutting those that are seducing fido all day long will improve service in two ways.

1 Save the pay given to wastrels

2 You encourage the good workers by not rewarding crappy workers
MACS
a year ago

and you somehow think that cutting almost 20% of the workforce from va will improve the wait time? the reason they make an appointment is to insure they are not inundated with walk ins, this system is no different then a reg doc office.... make an appointment then wait for anywhere from 5 minutes to an hour or more depending on how the docs schedule is running for the day.... so they added an extra ticket. prob unnecessary but if it keeps them on track then so be it...

drglnc wrote:



20 year military career... been dealing with the VA since I got out. There's a metric shit-ton of waste, fraud, and abuse. Why do you think the pentagon has never passed an audit?

Every single command I was at... We used to blow money like drunken sailors at the end of the fiscal year. Why? So our budget wouldn't get cut. They don't reward saving money, they punish it.

And lets not talk about how to get one of those military contracts. Let's just say it isn't the best or most efficient that get to do business with us. Those stories you hear about $400 hammers are floating around for a reason. And that should make all of us mad... about the waste, not that something is finally being done about it.

What's that saying about cutting off all the dead flesh? You have to cut past the rot... new flesh will grow back. So cut real damn deep... and if you go too far you can always hire some back.
rfenst
a year ago

Every single command I was at... We used to blow money like drunken sailors at the end of the fiscal year. Why? So our budget wouldn't get cut. They don't reward saving money, they punish it.

MACS wrote:


That is SOP for every government agency and corporate business department to try when the belt isn't tight enough. The spending avoids getting "sunset out" if not spent.
Gene363
a year ago
The fix?

Zero-based budgeting (ZBB)

Zero-based budgeting is a budgeting technique in which all expenses must be justified for a new period or year starting from zero, versus starting with the previous budget and adjusting it as needed.

ZBB is a highly effective business-planning tool to help a company identify and eliminate unnecessary costs, keep control of your spending, and focus on high-profit initiatives.

Budgeting, including ZBB, is the tactical implementation of a company’s strategic plan. To deliver the financial and operational goals in the strategic plan, an organization needs to translate its long-range plan into a detailed set of expected revenues and expenses that can be measured to track performance. These can be refined and adjusted along the way to keep the company on track with its goals to achieve the desired business outcomes.

Above all, budgets enforce ownership and accountability so that financial decisions are made sensibly. They help companies project profits, spot potential problems, and identify new opportunities so that finance leaders can make the necessary adjustments.



Of course, this would require the parliament of whores and the POTUS to work together and actually do their job.
frankj1
a year ago
we all lose sight of the fact that there is a (perhaps intentional) built in difference between for-profit business and Government, which would ideally end up even every year.

Though I'd be willing to listen to a tweaked ZBB altered for Government as opposed to profit...interesting
8trackdisco
a year ago

Cutting those that are seducing fido all day long will improve service in two ways.

1 Save the pay given to wastrels

2 You encourage the good workers by not rewarding crappy workers

Gene363 wrote:



You have a couple of good points.
The flaw in the way this has been going, is it is worse than Chainsaw. It is chainsaw from a distance.
Hell, VPs and Senior Directors in the private sector don't know what is going on below the mid level of management.

Here's the easist way to do it effectively and efficently. Lets assume 1 Director, 10 Managers, with each Manager having 10 people (101 people total).

Director tells each of the 10 they need to choose their 3 least productive people. They get whacked.
Depending on how the Managers performed and their performance, the Direct then whacks the 3 least productive Managers.

You've reduced the staff by a third, at the cost of probably 10% of the production at both.

To your point, in most places, the 80/20 Rule is real. 20% of the people are doing 80% of the work.

Slap on a little Six Sigma and Lean, and it gets more efficient all of the time.





Stogie1020
a year ago
Musk said his philospohy is that if he doesn't need to UN-do 25% of his cuts, he didn't cut enough.
DrMaddVibe
a year ago

Slap on a little Six Sigma and Lean, and it gets more efficient all of the time.

8trackdisco wrote:



What?
Brewha
a year ago
I think this is a good beginning to cutting the endless flow of money to all those veterans entitlements. We simply can't afford them.

Next we he can reduce our wasteful and bloated military. You know we blow more on the military than any other country by a mile!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_with_highest_military_expenditures 

Cut the Army in half. Fire the Airforce, Navy, and Marines. If we need a plane or a boat, get the Army to do it.
drglnc
a year ago

I think this is a good beginning to cutting the endless flow of money to all those veterans entitlements. We simply can't afford them.

Next we he can reduce our wasteful and bloated military. You know we blow more on the military than any other country by a mile!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_with_highest_military_expenditures 

Cut the Army in half. Fire the Airforce, Navy, and Marines. If we need a plane or a boat, get the Army to do it.

Brewha wrote:



Don't forget space farce, shouldn't be bankrolling another Kubrick we landed on the moon BS...
Brewha
a year ago
We don't need no stinkin' Space Force. Elon and his Droids can do it way cheaper.

Hell, maybe just privatise the whole military - save us a few trillion, while kicking Big Government in the pills.
jkrfox2011
a year ago

I think this is a good beginning to cutting the endless flow of money to all those veterans entitlements. We simply can't afford them.

Next we he can reduce our wasteful and bloated military. You know we blow more on the military than any other country by a mile!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_with_highest_military_expenditures 

Cut the Army in half. Fire the Airforce, Navy, and Marines. If we need a plane or a boat, get the Army to do it.

Brewha wrote:




Hi, Navy Nuke veteran here. You might be interested to learn the following:

In 1961, the army was allowed to operate a small test reactor in Idaho at the Idaho National Engineering Laboratory. They committed the cardinal sin of taking the core prompt critical and destroying the facility, killing 3 plant operators.

On January 3, 1961, at 9:01 pm MST, an operator fully pulled out the reactor's central control rod, causing the reactor to go from fully shut down to prompt critical. THIS IS SOMETHING YOU NEVER DO.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SL-1  has a good writeup of the event.

The US Navy's Nuclear Training program has the most rigorous curriculum and safety protocols in the entire US military. Unless the Army were to adopt this program, they are not qualified, nor have the capacity to operate such vessels.

While you may think that our military is too large, understand that it is our military presence around the world that prevents many conflagrations from starting in the first place. Sea lanes are protected for commercial shipping, borders of small countries are protected from larger aggressor nations and the threat of invasion is mitigated by the fact that we can bring the fight to anywhere in the world on a moment's notice. Attack the US and you will be destroyed. It is a harsh truth, but a truth nonetheless. This was the lesson learned from Pearl Harbor: peace is achieved through strength and it is that strength that has precluded the possibility of any hostile military action on the continent for the past 80 years. Don't be fooled into thinking it could never happen again. If you dismantle the very means of protection you enjoy, it will happen.

That said, I agree there is a ton of wasteful spending associated with the military that must be eliminated. In fact, eliminating the wasteful spending would actually improve conditions by focusing resources where they are truly needed.
DrMaddVibe
a year ago

Elon and his Droids can do it way cheaper.

Brewha wrote:



Only if they make fart noises though riiight?

🇨🇮
Brewha
a year ago

Hi, Navy Nuke veteran here. You might be interested to learn the following:

In 1961, the army was allowed to operate a small test reactor in Idaho at the Idaho National Engineering Laboratory. They committed the cardinal sin of taking the core prompt critical and destroying the facility, killing 3 plant operators.

On January 3, 1961, at 9:01 pm MST, an operator fully pulled out the reactor's central control rod, causing the reactor to go from fully shut down to prompt critical. THIS IS SOMETHING YOU NEVER DO.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SL-1  has a good writeup of the event.

The US Navy's Nuclear Training program has the most rigorous curriculum and safety protocols in the entire US military. Unless the Army were to adopt this program, they are not qualified, nor have the capacity to operate such vessels.

While you may think that our military is too large, understand that it is our military presence around the world that prevents many conflagrations from starting in the first place. Sea lanes are protected for commercial shipping, borders of small countries are protected from larger aggressor nations and the threat of invasion is mitigated by the fact that we can bring the fight to anywhere in the world on a moment's notice. Attack the US and you will be destroyed. It is a harsh truth, but a truth nonetheless. This was the lesson learned from Pearl Harbor: peace is achieved through strength and it is that strength that has precluded the possibility of any hostile military action on the continent for the past 80 years. Don't be fooled into thinking it could never happen again. If you dismantle the very means of protection you enjoy, it will happen.

That said, I agree there is a ton of wasteful spending associated with the military that must be eliminated. In fact, eliminating the wasteful spending would actually improve conditions by focusing resources where they are truly needed.

jkrfox2011 wrote:



Welcome JK, and congrats on your first post.
It's particularly lucid - but you will get the hang of it later.

So, move a few Navy boys over to the Army. The Army has nukes anyway. But cut the budget by half - we would STILL be spending more than anyone else.
Brewha
a year ago

Only if they make fart noises though riiight?

🇨🇮

DrMaddVibe wrote:



In space - no one can hear you fart.
MACS
a year ago

I think this is a good beginning to cutting the endless flow of money to all those veterans entitlements. We simply can't afford them.

Next we he can reduce our wasteful and bloated military. You know we blow more on the military than any other country by a mile!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_with_highest_military_expenditures 

Cut the Army in half. Fire the Airforce, Navy, and Marines. If we need a plane or a boat, get the Army to do it.

Brewha wrote:




See, now this is just chicken little "the sky is falling" bullsheit. The TRUTH of the matter is, we could cut military funding by 30% and not affect readiness one iota... by simply eliminating the waste, fraud and abuse. No entitlement cuts, no loss of services... just trimming the waste.

People who are against this are either ill informed or just plain morons.

So you saying we should just keep forking over billions to an organization that has failed 7 audits and can't account for WHY?

Well... I disagree.
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