tailgater
Thursday, June 19, 2003 1:49:00 PM
Rick,

Your self righteous post shows your true colors.

If ANY OTHER GROUP of people were berated by someone like you have insulted the Christians, then you would be the first in line to cry foul.

You may be old, but you've not been alive long enough to witness a war staged on Christians killing the "heathens". Don't live in the distant past merely to make a point.

Why such disdain for a loving, caring religion? Look at all the GOOD things Christian groups have done.

In fact, you know as well as I do that more charitable groups are formed in America in the name of Christianity than there are formed by all other religions combined (including athiests and agnostics)

Although most major religions have values similar to Christianity, it is indeed true that this particular country was founded by folks who used Christian Values as a template. And Christians are still the majority.

So, although I don't want the government to force ANY religion on us, I also am sick and tired of Non-Christians being somehow OFFENDED by Christian traditions.

You're a well respected member of this board, but your hypocracy is ugly.

bud451
Friday, June 20, 2003 4:24:00 AM
Excellent point Tail.....excellent.
Robby
Friday, June 20, 2003 5:48:00 AM
I think Rick is Jewish based on some previous posts. I could be wrong and don't say that with any distain. There has been long standing tension between Christians and Jews. Some evidence that the Pope turned a blind eye to what the Germans did. But America (USA) is the single largest and strongest supporter of Israel. Without us, they would not exist...

What if your favorite color was blue. If everything was blue, would blue still be your favorite color?

RICKAMAVEN
Saturday, June 21, 2003 4:43:00 AM
Robby

there is no long standing tension between jews and christians. where did you get such an idea.

there is more then "some evidencee" that the catholic church and the pope aided the nazis.

but the usa sent sent the st louis away, so it is hard to get mad at rome.

"The Saint Louis Ship was turned away from the American shores boarded with over 900 Jews in June of 1939. The ship had attempted to make entrance into Cuba first but was denied. Then for five days the ship full of these European Jews escaping the terrors of Nazism tried to make port into southern Florida only to be turned away by the United States government authorities. The Saint Louis Ship then attempted entrance into Canada only to be turned away again and the ship eventually had to go back to its port in Holland. Most of these Jewish people were later slaughtered in the Nazi concentration camps."

RICKAMAVEN
Saturday, June 21, 2003 5:04:00 AM
tailgater

i believe you meant staged BY the christians. you are correct, i have not.

when did i become a hypocrite. i have tried to maintain a nasty attitude to most everything. cigar information excepted.

i have nothing against the religion except its proselytizing. that is part and parcel of this need to pray in public arenas.

i find no fault at all with the religion itself or any other religion that eliminates or abates the fear of dying that is inherent in man's psyche.

my new daughter-in-law, a recent born again convert, talked to me about ross not having any interst in an afterlife. she said she married ross for all eternity but doesn't understand what will happen after they die. (she's 24) she believes in an afterlife and ross does not even think about it.

i told her when you both die, one of you will have a big surprise

usahog
Saturday, June 21, 2003 9:13:00 AM
yea they'll both have one more TAX to Pay!!!!

Hog

RICKAMAVEN
Saturday, June 21, 2003 9:50:00 AM
usahog

super fantastic response. rick

Robby
Saturday, June 21, 2003 10:41:00 AM
Rick, it's not like hamas or anything, but there is "some" tension there historically.
tailgater
Saturday, June 21, 2003 8:53:00 PM
Of course there's tension.

The Jews killed Christ...

Well, actually it was Rome, but only after the insistence of the Jews.

And before anybody gets their yarmulke in a wad, I'm just kidding...

tailgater
Saturday, June 21, 2003 9:01:00 PM
Rick,

I believe that the Christian religions are the only faith denomination to ever have customs taken away from them in America.

So while our children learn about Kwanza, they are not allowed to celibrate Christmas.

And while they learn about Islam in school, they do not learn about Christ, unless they learn it in Church.

I've NEVER pushed my religion onto anyone.

But somehow Christians are evil because they pledge to one nation under God.

No. It is unfair to bash the silent majority simply because most folks won't cry foul.