Charlie
22 years ago
bs, that was not an attack!!!! Only a poke!

Charlie
RICKAMAVEN
22 years ago
DrMaddVibe

"They gut the military and intelligence communities and call it "smaller government"!"

may i remind you we used clinton's military in iraq and are now using little w's ideas to solve the peace.

don't even try to claim that clinton gutted the military. if you do, it will show you are simply without factual knowledge and simply bashing clinton.

no one takes Buchanan seriously. he is so far right that he is off the charts. but in this case i do believe are southern borders should be sealed.
Robby
22 years ago
Big corporations employ people, produce products, consume products, create other work in other industries by the afore mentioned activities. I am a believer in supply side economics. I don't think corporations are evil. I'm employed by a fortune 50 corporation, a big evil corporation... And they make a lot of money, yes, but they employ a lot of people, and they spend a lot of money, and in so doing, "the circle of life"... It's how the economy works. It's not evil, it makes sense. And people who invest in these “evil” corporations with their retirement accounts will be less dependent on the Democrat version of dependency on big brother in the long run.
RICKAMAVEN
22 years ago
Robby

"And people who invest in these “evil” corporations with their retirement accounts will be less dependent on the Democrat version of dependency on big brother in the long run."

ENRON comes to mind in a flash.

"the circle of life"

i believe that ends in the bahamas where the money is hidden and i believe IBM is moving offshore and cutting a bunch of jobs.

i don't have any trouble with big corporations, but people like murdach, who owns a zillion newspaper, and radio station, and tv station and has a personal agenda, forces that agenda on the public because the public is informed through someone like him.

hence the myth of the "liberal press" foisted on the public by the right wing propaganda machine owned by murdach, and never a mention of anything done wrong by the current government he indirectly owns.

this machine went after clinton from day one and spent millions and/or billions with ken starr and turned up nothing. then they impeach a president for getting a ****. why aren't bush's indiscretions and out and out lies in the media.

why is there no mention, unless people search the internet, about the carrier circling off shore waiting for little w to come aboard and positioning the carrier so the background was open sea instead of the shore line which was clearly visible.

i'm glad you have a good job with a company that is treating you fairly, but your arguments fall flat if people are informed. unfortunately they are not.

just look on the posts that people with viewpoints similar to yours post, almost verbatim.

of course that has nothing to do with the simpletons that counter my posts with
commie, liberal, stupid, pinko and one women telling me to "**** off"


bloody spaniard
22 years ago
Robby, Robby, Robby how do you do it? You work harder on these posts than a one legged man in an ass-kicking contest. I'll be brief, because unlike you, I am tired...

Most corporations are not evil- just GREEDY! That's part of capitalism if you want to survive. There's very little altruism in their world unless there's PR involved. One more thing, small businesses are what drive our economy- NOT large corporations. Ask any economist. I used to think just like you, but I'm beginning to see the light now. It's kinda sad really. I wanted to keep my starry-eyed look at the world.

Rick, maybe she was coming on to you in whip & leather dominatrix sort of way...

In the words of the illustrious Marion Barry, "Where's the crack & womins, I mean, holey moley, it's back to bidness for me"
DrMaddVibe
22 years ago
Rick, I've include some links. It's haunting to read their words now in a post 9-11 world. I'm sure that you're old enough to remember America getting caught with their pants down after have it's military depleated because politicans felt we didn't need them around anymore. "Clinton's military" is being supplemented with National Guard(which is SUPPOSED to be in charge of protecting a homeland invasion!)and Reserves(which are supposed to be used as a stop gap measure or for a 2nd front assault), both of which are not prepared or set up for long range deployments. They're instituting a "lockdown" approach to soldiers that are deployed there now in relation to ETS'ing or transferring. The attrition rate will be abysmal for both of them, and military readiness will be affected!

http://www.cdi.org/adm/708/ 

http://pherrett.blogspot.com/2003_05_11_pherrett_archive.html#94153405 

I look forward to your replies.
Robby
22 years ago
Bloody MAVEN

1. Yes there are evil corporations, I’m not employed by one. I prefer to think that the vast majority of them are not in fact run like Enron was. There are evil women to, should men forsake all women for the sake of a few evil ones? What then is the fate of the human race?

2. Do you know why corporations are moving off shore in droves? Here’s a little secret about how our IRS taxes multinational corporations. If you are headquartered in the US and you make and sell goods in the US, you pay taxes in the US. However, if you make goods in South America, and sell those same goods in South America, guess what? You pay taxes in America! We are one of the only countries in the world that structures it’s corporate taxes this way and it’s punitive. If you were a CFO/CEO what would your thoughts be?


3. Pissed off by Fox? DEAL WITH IT! You have; a) CNN, b) CBS, c) ABC, d) MSNBC, not to mention the myriad of “liberal” news papers and hey what about the Oxygen network while we’re at it… Sorry, but your lugubrious wailings about the conservative media conspiracy are simply specious, they don’t wash, that dog won’t hunt.

4. re: your pal, the BJ president and the co-conspirator, there is a big difference between innocent and not guilty. I’m sure you understand the difference. If I kill you, and 3 people witness it, and the government brings a case against me, and suddenly those 3 people meet with untimely deaths themselves, am I now innocent because I can’t be proven guilty? Evidently in the court of Maven, I am…

5. If you run a corporation, you are accountable to the shareholders. What is your objective? To make money? What exactly in a word is wrong with that? If your boss came to you and said, hey, look, you’ve been busting your hump around here, coming in early, staying late, taking work home, going to school to improve your skills, turning out high quality work, helping us win bids, you’ve REALLY been a peak performer and you deserve a promotion and a raise in your salary of 20%. However, if we do that, we’ll have to cut the 6% raise we were going to give to your slacking counterparts back to only 3%.

Do you a) Look shocked, and immediately offer to forgo your deserved and hard earned promotion and raise in deference to your less motivated counterparts? For the good of “the proletariat?”

or b) do you tell your boss, hey, if they want it, let um work for it like I did, and gladly accept you compensation for a job well done?

You’re not REALLY going to expect us to believe A are you? LOL!!!!!! That’s what your saying in so many words with corporations! Just how is it different?

And in the inimitable words of the supporters of Mr. Barry, “The Bitch Set Him Up!” They were COMPLETELY willing to overlook the fact that he was not just Marion, but married and in a cheap hotel with someone he knew was a prostitute smoking crack?? The fact that he was guilty and amoral were “immaterial”, what was important to his “constituents” was the facts surrounding exactly how he was snared, not speaking to the right or wrong of his activities… Amazing!
bloody spaniard
22 years ago
All I can say is, Well I never...!

Robby you still haven't answered my question. How do you do it? Columbian coffee iv, enemas, what?! Posting on this site IS fun, stimulating, time-consuming, AND addictive. You are very passionate.
Todog
22 years ago
bloody spaniard for President!
RICKAMAVEN
22 years ago
DrMaddVibe

i have bookmarked the three sites and will read them tomorrow
RICKAMAVEN
22 years ago
Robby

i have printed your post and will read it tomorrow
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