i already apologized for my lack of taste with the hitler post. you are right (no pun intended, yes there is), the country supports him in his war effort and i support our response up to a point. nadar vs the kid, the kid was of no value as the governor of texas, and managed to give anything and everything away to corporate interests (the same people that gave so much for his campaign) (and exactly what he is doing now). so nader has as little experience running a country. the seatbelt example is just that. nadar who had no recognition, and no money did take on the automotive industry and won. we might never have had a 911 if he had been president, a post he will never hold. if however mccain had won, i don't think we would be at war now because we might not have had a 911.