pabloescabar
22 years ago
Just cuz Karry prances around in ice skates,thats the only thing Hockey Dad likes that does not mean hes not a commie. weak America Vote kerry.
dbguru
22 years ago
Hog, I totally appreciate your attitude !!
So we're even.... Now let's get ready for the NCAA tournament.
dbguru
22 years ago
Alright CW.... take it easy
The challenge is show me some link on Newsmax or WorldNewsNet that says anything substantially complimentary about the actions of any Democrat. At least on Fox news I see it happening sometime.. not often, but enough to at least take their news seriously.

But really guy.... some of you guys were drawing conclusions on my behalf and I have every right to object to that. And the right wing has done a lot to try and make "liberal" a dirty word so the term neo-conservative or neo-con is just an expected reaction. Like you said what's good for the goose......

dbguru
22 years ago
Oh and you might check out my posts on Kerry vs Kerry for flip flops over the last few years... Again whats good for the goose......
HockeyDad
22 years ago
I haven't seen a denial yet regarding the accusation that Senator Kerry voted against all the weapons systems mentioned. Actually, It kinda looks like he's voted against every defense appropriations bill which would mean he's voted to $0 fund the entire military, not just kill these systems.

I'm looking hard, I just can't seem to find any substance on this Kerry fella. It seems that there is nothing to him except he's not Bush.
DrMaddVibe
22 years ago
Perhaps DB's "news sources" will be able to shed more light into his candidate's voting record, bill ownership, and attendance while a senator.
CWFoster
22 years ago
Hockey Dad- I'm looking hard, I just can't seem to find any substance on this Kerry fella. It seems that there is nothing to him except he's not Bush.

Exactly my point Hockey! Bush may not be my ideal of a Commander in Chief, but he's as good as I've seen offered since Reagan! And if he's beholden to oil companies (which hasn't been proven, but is a possibility given who his "good old boy" network doubtless includes) Who get's elected without owing some favors? Hanoi John sold out the MIAs when he refused to even investigate possible EYEWITNESS SIGHTINGS of POWs in post-war Viet Nam, so he could get his cousin (on the Forbes side of the family) a $9 BILLION contract to upgrade port facilities in Viet Nam! Would you rather a Chief Executive beholden to American oil companies, or the Forbes Corporations, or maybe it was for North Viet Nam!

DB- I too watch and read mutiple sources for news. I too make my own conclusions. I have NOT however resorted to name calling anybody on these boards. I have and DO refer to Kerry as Hanoi John, in much the same way as Rick refers to Bush as little w. The only time I try to be demeaning is when the only thing they can say about Kerry is "he's not Bush". OK, use YOUR head, YOU apply logic. Bush has some claim to conservatism, he may be a bit dissapointing in some areas, but he DOES have SOME appearances to keep up. What appearances does Kerry have to keep up? A voting record to the LEFT of TED KENNEDY (I'm not going to quote anybody, look it up!) As I said before, CNN, ABC, CBS, NBC, MSNBC, The Washington Post, The New York Times, The Washington Times, The Los Angeles Times, whoever the hell else you want to read, read them ALL, and you tell me who else is putting this information out! YOU look up the voting record, and then YOU ASK YOURSELF WHY THEY AREN'T PUTTING THIS INFORMATION OUT! Perhaps your enlightenment is not as profound as you think.
Sylance
22 years ago
Here's a good quote from Kerry:

"We are here to ask, and we are here to ask vehemently, where are the leaders of our country? Where is the leadership? We're here to ask where are McNamara, Rostow, Bundy, Gilpatrick, and so many others? Where are they now that we, the men they sent off to war, have returned? These are the commanders who have deserted their troops. And there is no more serious crime in the laws of war. The Army says they never leave their wounded. The marines say they never even leave their dead. These men have left all the casualties and retreated behind a pious shield of public rectitude. They've left the real stuff of their reputations bleaching behind them in the sun in this country.... "

My favorite is this considering his POW stance: "And there is no more serious crime in the laws of war."

This is an interesting read; it has his entire statement to the Senate Committee of Foreign Relations in April 23, 1971.

http://www.etsu.edu/cas/history/docs/vietvetswar.htm 
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