ok. yes. I believe they had them and USED them. But, I ask you this: did Saddam pose an imminent threat with existing WMDs?

OH YEA, non-political side topic.

some people are just thick-waisted by nature....Magnus ver Magussen (sp.?) is 6'2" - 286# with a 42" waist and I dare say he is in great shape for a big man, not to mention insanely strong. I'm 6'3" 280# and have a 40" waist, but for what I am into, it's all good. The biggest my arms have ever been is 20 1/2", but I'm not looking for ballooned bis (though I do think 22" are dammn impressive). I would rather be able to bench 315 for 18 reps than have my arms be a couple inches bigger, but that is just the powerlifter in me talking. BUT, I'd love to have a 34" waist WITH my strength; however, strongmen never have ultrathin waists.

Wow, look what all I have missed for a couple of weeks! Sonny, cool down, don't let em get under your skin! I do not agree with you on GWB, but you can have your opinion and I can have mine!
This is a wild thread, go smoke a Joya de Nic and enjoy life!
Charlie

The RIGHT side...I am always on the right side!

Marla
Double ditto on the right side!

Charlie

E-Chick way to go!!! Do you ride (Milwaukee steel I mean). My Wife and I love to tour on our bikes and we all could have a herf together(if we ever make it out to the left coast).

Fritz

An imminent threat with WMDs to us? I don't think so. I surely believe he had them for local use and that someday they will turn up. Maybe in Syria maybe in Iran maybe just buried in the sand.

So I guess I’ll throw my 2-cents in…

Let me start with saying I’m glad we’re there. I’m sorry for ever soldier who’ve lost their lives, but it comes with the job… and I thank them for taking it. However, anyone in the military who doesn’t think they’re there to go to war shouldn’t be there. I’m not heartless, as I have several friends and a God Father over there and they’d be the first to back up my statement.

Anyway… I believe Bush’s error is not on intelligence but on his timing. In my opinion, we should be there for no other reason than the UN mandates that Saddam didn’t comply with. Our problem is that we sent over people and equipment and only then did Saddam begin to comply… although very vaguely, with the UN resolutions. So what do we do now? Do we pack up and go home only to have Saddam kick out the UN inspectors and start all over again? It cost us a fortune to cage him and cost us even more to move our people and equipment. So if anything, blame Bush for relaying on WMD’s for his reason and not just the UN resolution. Perhaps he knew the UN was all talk and no action.

So I ask everyone who complained about the U.S. being there… please please answer this question. How could we have made Saddam comply with UN resolutions, keeping in mind if he didn’t follow them the UN was ‘supposed’ to impose them by force. Do we make it a habit to move forces to and from Saudi every year? I look forward to an answer.

I am glad to see this has turned into a love fest.
Although I think Sonny is still ticked at me.
As for me. I am 6'1" 250 and I do lift. I am just not a fanatic about it, 3 days a week as part of my workouts.
I do ride Milwalkee Iron and am retired from a 20 year career in law enforcement. I never served in the military but during my career I have been in fire fights, street fights, riots and on one occasion looked down the business end of a .45 of someone who intended me harm yada yada yada.
And Sonny even though I don't hold any degrees other than the one from the academy I do have an above average degree of knowledge in issue that matter to me the most.
And belive me I do not take any slams personal, I do enjoy heated debate and like the give and take.

EI, not a worry in the world! We jest and even get heated with it at times, but NEVER personal....promise.

BTW, formal education by no means is the sole measure of intelligence........my father in law has a high school diploma and I am constantly following his lead.

Marla ...

... and all this time I just thought you'd stand anywhere you could get a vote .... politically speaking of course !!!! LOL

EI - I like your antagonistic approach .... hell, I downright admire it! Isn't it funny though when a "Lefty" can say what they want and it's not supposed to offend anyone, but when a "Righty" expresses their opinion everyone wants to pick a fight and tell them how wrong they are?

I know - I know ... now the "Lefties" are going to be upset with me and tonight they'll all be getting together for yet another .....

... "Rainbow Warrior Dance" in defense of their cause.

Funny thing ... but somehow I don't think we'd have even close to half the attorneys we currently do in the U.S. if the "Leftist" viewpoints were just ignored and disregarded - then again, maybe I just forgot to take my Paxil for the day 🙂

All Ya'all just remember the title of this thread

Something about pot; right????
Fritz