Robby, you sir have complete utter ignorance when it comes to me. This ignorance is becoming famous here on Cbid. The main difference between you and me is that I make observations and you sir, in the spirit of the wonderful leaders that your support have taken lying to a new neo-con artist art form.

FYI, I am a extremely dishearted ex-Republican who was invited to Bush the First's inaguration, supported Reagan on 1980, met him on 2 occassions and was very active with Dole's presidential campaign in '88 along with my Republican congressman throughout the 80's. These were conservatives I had some respect for. I was an active involved Republican up until 1991. Then I was fairly independent for the next 9 years

But since 2000, thanks primarily to neo-cons like yourself and GWB especially, I am now solidly and actively involved with the Democrats. I (probably unlike you .. believe in giving and working for what I believe in) Like I did when I was a Republican I am active and involved both with the presidential campaign and my congressional campaign. I've put dozens of hours of volunteer work and hundreds of dollars of my hard earned money into the cause. Had it not been for the neo-cons, These efforts would probably still have been been with more traditional conservatives like Homebrew and the leaders be supports. There are traditional conservatives and then there are neo-cons like yourself, Robby. It's the neo-Cons that have made the Republican Party an organization I can no longer support in any way. And with every politicizing post you neo-cons make, it does nothing but make me an more activist liberal.

Robby, you have never made any refeerence to actually making any efforts for the neo-cons you support other than ranting on this board ad infinitum. Heck I've probably done way more to support conservatives that guys like Homebrew can respect than you've ever done for your neo-caon artist leaders. And in that neo-con tradition, sir, you do nothing but show us all that you are are nothing but an insulting brainwashed neo-con artist attack dog.

You are only verbally deficating on yourself my friend. And we're all beginning to get more familiar with what that smells like.

DB

First, sounds like you flip/flop like your “man” JFK.
Unlike me, I’m not a big W fan, but can’t
Come fill circle and reverse field and
Keep trying to justify myself.

You can’t say you were a GOP supporter
On one hand and then turn around 180
Undo everything you said you stood for

Db, that’s like saying you’re going gay
Because your last romance didn’t workout!

Robby, your gay analogy makes no sense
I have no reason to lie about this. I was pretty much a Republican until 1991. In 1990 I married a conservative Christian gal who I discovered was nice and gracious on the outside and violent, mean-spirited and hateful in a very bigotted way on the inside. She introduced me to many others in the neo-conservative right who had the same ultra-hypocritical behavior. Her behavior was vain, self-focused and socially climbing. Although professing Chritianity publically she and her friends were often quite sinful in their actions.

Ultimately I felt my association with those in this neo-con frame of mind was abhorant. A year later I divorced her and married a far more loving and sensible gal who is nurturing and caring as a pediatric nurse. Politically I became more independent and considerate of Reform and Libertarian platforms and also benefted from the economics of the 1990's in a very positive way which gave me more respect for the Democrats understanding of economic issues in general.

Then came the witch hunt with the Clinton's impeachment over a lousy BJ. A personal issue that the neo-cons decided to channel major resources into make a big issue out of costing taxpayers huge amounts of money. Then the smear campaigns that GW Bush directed at John McCain. The rise of the right wing media and its propaganda machine which brainwashes people like you, Robby into non-thinking insult machines. And finally the lies that are manefesting in billions of lost dollars and thousands of lost lives in Iraq. This is not any casual flip flop. This is a very deliberative change of mind coming events that should cause any caring thinking person to change his mind.

Just like Kerry coming to the conclusions about atrocities in Vietnam, I am about the actions of the neo-cons. And that has what has made me a liberal

Forgive me, wasn’t saying U were, just an analogy.
Unlike other neo-cons, I don’t
Condone everything W does
Kindred spirits support W but dislike some aspects.

You can still vote for the man but not agree
One hundred percent on all his policies.
Until the libertarian party becomes a force, I’m stuck.

Dubya is the lesser of two evils IMO
But lesser that Kerry has lots of room to get to W…

Well. perhaps there is hope for you yet, Robby...

Now if we can all keep an open enough mind to investigate who John Kerry really is as we begin to see more unbiased sources on the subject and not through the lying misrepresentations that the Bush ads and the neo-con media present. Perhaps Dubya might even consider a debate or two. Wouldn't that be interesting.

You just might find him to be a lot more viable than you see him now.... At least a lot more viable than the status quo with GWB.