teedubbya
Thursday, June 30, 2011 5:01:09 PM
I always promised to pull out too. so what?

besides... I did leave, now I am back.
ZRX1200
Thursday, June 30, 2011 5:03:52 PM
We'll if I can't rely on you for moral decisions then I guess Ram deciding my retail decisions is a lost hope too......

At least I'll always have the Thonginator.
teedubbya
Thursday, June 30, 2011 5:06:55 PM

We'll if I can't rely on you for moral decisions then I guess Ram deciding my retail decisions is a lost hope too......

At least I'll always have the Thonginator.

ZRX1200 wrote:



ZX I am mostly moral but you should never assume so.

By the way, people like you think "well, it would be nice to quit having sex with sheep". But you don't look at the real life big picture.



Half the folks in here are killing starfish the others are creating strawmen. Strange place.

I am a hypocrit though because I really have no idea if ZX thinks it would be nice to quit having sex with sheep.
ZRX1200
Thursday, June 30, 2011 5:22:11 PM
Can I vote present??
teedubbya
Thursday, June 30, 2011 5:23:12 PM

Can I vote present??

ZRX1200 wrote:



depends. are there sheep in the room with you or do you have either wool or sheep dna anywhere on your person?
teedubbya
Thursday, June 30, 2011 5:24:00 PM
I quit because I got a complex. they kept telling everyone I was baaaad
DrafterX
Thursday, June 30, 2011 5:58:20 PM
😟
ZRX1200
Thursday, June 30, 2011 6:09:22 PM
I use a Montana smiley stick (mirror duct taped to end of stick) to make sure they enjoy it. Then your golden.
DrMaddVibe
Thursday, June 30, 2011 6:55:26 PM

I use a Montana smiley stick (mirror duct taped to end of stick) to make sure they enjoy it. Then your golden.

ZRX1200 wrote:





Silence is golden...Duct tape is silver!


At least that's what the tshirt I have says![whip]
tailgater
Friday, July 1, 2011 10:37:52 AM



Your real issue is when you say "But you don't look at the real life big picture." That is absolutely nonesense. I look at lots of pictures of fat chicks. REALLY BIG pictures of fat chicks. Sometimes full size posters. I dig them. It turns me on.

teedubbya wrote:



Finally.
Something we can both sink our teeth into.

Literally.

I think we just had an inter-webs "moment".
Did you feel the chill?


Oh. Sorry.
My fly was down.

Old habit when sitting at the computer, I guess.
DrafterX
Friday, July 1, 2011 11:44:47 AM
✋
teedubbya
Friday, July 1, 2011 12:04:27 PM

Finally.
Something we can both sink our teeth into.

Literally.

I think we just had an inter-webs "moment".
Did you feel the chill?


Oh. Sorry.
My fly was down.

Old habit when sitting at the computer, I guess.

tailgater wrote:



now that's just sick
borndead1
Friday, July 1, 2011 12:17:26 PM

I do want the govt screening drugs etc. prior to them hitting the market and taking them off when there are issues.

teedubbya wrote:




They did a great job with Vioxx. FDA approved it, and only 100,000 people had to die before it was pulled. Success!

teedubbya
Friday, July 1, 2011 12:19:08 PM

They did a great job with Vioxx. FDA approved it, and only 100,000 people had to die before it was pulled. Success!

borndead1 wrote:



no doubt they screw up, you can always find some of those. it will not be the last time. some things do not show up immediately and science is not perfect.... especially combined with human error. but would it really be better if they just didn't do it at all? is that really what you would prefer?
borndead1
Friday, July 1, 2011 12:28:50 PM
No, I would prefer an independent entity, not a corrupt gang of government thugs.
teedubbya
Friday, July 1, 2011 12:35:21 PM

No, I would prefer an independent entity, not a corrupt gang of government thugs.

borndead1 wrote:



fair enough. so the task is necessary just not in the form it is today. cool. I can live with that.

But somehow you have to set up an independent entity and make sure they remain independent. Easier said than done. Anytime you set up an entity with any sort of size or power you run into corruption etc. That to me is the main problem with government. you can set up another entity and call it something else but in the end it will likely walk like a duck.

government is a great whipping post and they bring it upon themselves...but they are not alone. I have been associated with entities created by their own industry to monitor themselves. They actually formed an independent entity to do so. Usually the motivation was if we don't do it the govt will and we do not want that. So they do the bare minimum to avoid big brother but not enough to really "police" themselves. In reality there are some components that want to do the right thing just to do the right thing or to avoid the scum bags of their industry from soiling their good name etc. But it never works long term. It's a farce.

So the govt may not be the solution as far as food and drug safety but I've not really seen anything better on the table. I would jump at it if there was.
borndead1
Friday, July 1, 2011 1:08:28 PM
There really is no solution. Government is not going to get smaller, become less corrupt, or relenquish any of its power. We can sit here and bitch about government and fantasize about how things SHOULD be, but at the end of the day, HockeyDad still controls all.
ZRX1200
Friday, July 1, 2011 1:09:50 PM
How true.
DrafterX
Friday, July 1, 2011 1:25:43 PM
sounds like the FDA needs one of them Czars.... but them we'd have to buy another limo... 😟
HockeyDad
Friday, July 1, 2011 1:32:39 PM

There really is no solution. Government is not going to get smaller, become less corrupt, or relenquish any of its power. We can sit here and bitch about government and fantasize about how things SHOULD be, but at the end of the day, HockeyDad still controls all.

borndead1 wrote:






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