FuzzNJ
Wednesday, October 19, 2011 3:40:32 PM

Well DUH!


If anyone made sound fiscal policy decisions we wouldn't have $15 trillion in debt!

HockeyDad wrote:



Thanks for admitting that you are just playing a political game instead of discussing the topic seriously. I can ignore you now.
HockeyDad
Wednesday, October 19, 2011 3:41:19 PM

And that's the definition of a progressive income tax.

FuzzNJ wrote:




Yes, it punishes success and produces tax revenue that the government can use for cheese, ground beef, and Hamburger Helper to keep the less successful from rioting over their lack of success.
FuzzNJ
Wednesday, October 19, 2011 3:42:42 PM

I've been the one saying "fair" is a load of crap. It has no practical definition in the conversation.

HockeyDad wrote:



Well, then your point was just stupid then, and more games. Double secret probation ignore.
HockeyDad
Wednesday, October 19, 2011 3:45:12 PM

Thanks for admitting that you are just playing a political game instead of discussing the topic seriously. I can ignore you now.

FuzzNJ wrote:




In that case you probably should just admit that you are just playing a political game instead of discussing the topic seriously. With your spare time then you can actually go join the OWS protests.
FuzzNJ
Wednesday, October 19, 2011 3:46:01 PM

At what point have I done my part plus about 4 other peoples part as well?

MikeyRavioli wrote:



Feel free to just quit your job and give up if you think it would be a better life for you and your family. Personally I prefer a larger than average family income because being poor isn't where it's at.
HockeyDad
Wednesday, October 19, 2011 3:46:07 PM

Well, then your point was just stupid then, and more games. Double secret probation ignore.

FuzzNJ wrote:




You're starting to lose your cool.
FuzzNJ
Wednesday, October 19, 2011 3:46:41 PM

What you meant to say is they should be punished some more.

HockeyDad wrote:



wtg, Kreskin.
DrMaddVibe
Wednesday, October 19, 2011 3:47:18 PM

You're starting to lose your cool.

HockeyDad wrote:




Stop poking the jellyfish.🐴
HockeyDad
Wednesday, October 19, 2011 3:48:12 PM

Stop poking the jellyfish.🐴

DrMaddVibe wrote:




I'm trying to get them off their couches and into the OWS protests so I can move those torches and pitchforks!
FuzzNJ
Wednesday, October 19, 2011 3:48:31 PM

In that case you probably should just admit that you are just playing a political game instead of discussing the topic seriously. With your spare time then you can actually go join the OWS protests.

HockeyDad wrote:



How so? You have admitted to purposely using skewed statistics to make a political point rather than discussing sound fiscal policy. Where have I not been serious? Just disagreeing with me is not an answer.
DrMaddVibe
Wednesday, October 19, 2011 3:48:57 PM

I'm trying to get them off their couches and into the OWS protests so I can move those torches and pitchforks!

HockeyDad wrote:





That's NOT going to happen.
FuzzNJ
Wednesday, October 19, 2011 3:49:32 PM

You're starting to lose your cool.

HockeyDad wrote:



lol hardly. I have a long way to go for that.
DrMaddVibe
Wednesday, October 19, 2011 3:50:51 PM

lol hardly. I have a long way to go for that.

FuzzNJ wrote:




riiiight!


"f you" tizzy countdown to commence in 5....4.....3....2....
HockeyDad
Wednesday, October 19, 2011 3:51:19 PM

That's NOT going to happen.

DrMaddVibe wrote:





That is my worst fear. Then I'm stuck with a bunch of product with no market.
DrMaddVibe
Wednesday, October 19, 2011 3:53:05 PM
Write them off on the taxes or sell them to the US military...over in Africa!

Just let me know beforehand...I gotsta know whether to go long or short the stock!:-"
FuzzNJ
Wednesday, October 19, 2011 3:54:22 PM

Hey Fuzzy,
My SIL, daughter and 8 grandkids live in NC. He's a heating/AC tec and makes $25k a year. He has $0 withheld from his pay in Federal and State income taxes. He pays about $2k in FICA, $1k in property taxes and about another $1k in State Sales Tax. Last year, due entirely to Child Care Credits, Additional Child Care Credits, and the EIC, they got a $9800 Federal refund, and a $900 State refund. This is with nothing withheld from his pay. Add another $10k in food stamps and that means they paid a negative $16700 in taxes. Ran numbers for them last year when I did their taxes, and he would have to make over $60k before he would pay a dime in Federal income tax.

I tend to believe the numbers these folks are throwing out are far more accurate then you think. Not saying the working poor don't need a hand, as they sure do, but just because you don't want to believe the numbers doesn't make you right.

dpnewell wrote:



Here's why. For a family of 11 that income is considered below the poverty line. Pretty simple answer. I would hope you would be a little more sympathetic toward your own family when they are in that situation.
FuzzNJ
Wednesday, October 19, 2011 3:55:20 PM

riiiight!


"f you" tizzy countdown to commence in 5....4.....3....2....

DrMaddVibe wrote:



Yeah, I'm angry crying right now and stomping my feet.
HockeyDad
Wednesday, October 19, 2011 3:55:59 PM

Write them off on the taxes or sell them to the US military...over in Africa!

Just let me know beforehand...I gotsta know whether to go long or short the stock!:-"

DrMaddVibe wrote:





Torches and pitchforks in Uganda! This could be doable both as a military subcontract (sole-sourced) or even though targeted economic aid.
DrMaddVibe
Wednesday, October 19, 2011 3:57:07 PM

Torches and pitchforks in Uganda! This could be doable both as a military subcontract (sole-sourced) or even though targeted economic aid.

HockeyDad wrote:




Glass half-full!


So can I pencil you in for a Long position?
DrMaddVibe
Wednesday, October 19, 2011 3:58:34 PM

Yeah, I'm angry crying right now and stomping my feet.

FuzzNJ wrote:




Stop it..you'll wake the baby!

You KNOW how the Ms. is when the baby doesn't get nappy time.