HAVE YOU FORGOTTEN

NO MATTER HOW YOU SHAKE AND DANCE, THE LAST FEW DROPS FALL ON YOUR PANTS.

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You ever watched a 22 week baby being born prematurely? I have. Though that baby's lungs were too small to survive it was alive for a few minutes while it feebly withered away in its mothers arms.

Abortion is murder, just like the death penalty. It's just sanctioned murder. It has nothing to do with religion, I'm not even against it. But it is what it is.

I would like to watch you break down in the fetal position on the floor while watching a mans wife scream in agony as that baby died. Watch that baby go limp.

You cry baby liberals are the weakest individuals on earth. Talk a big game on science versus religion to mask your lack of ability to stand up and have courage and faith on something greater than your ego.

I hope the worst for you and your weak cohorts. Don't mask the issue.

Abortion is a choice not a necessity.

When taking an innocent life that cannot speak for itself yes I do condone some legislation. When you start saying NO to the procedure is a hard one I struggle with to answer in all candor.

Dude,

Masking the issue with your self-righteous indignation doesn’t change the simple fact that you not only want to push your values on everyone else, but that you're eager to bully people while doing it.

Your God tells you not to have a 1st trimester abortion? No worries, carry your child to term even it you got knocked up by a rapist. God tell you condoms are murder? Guess you go with “rhythm and blues”. Who the hell cares what your values are or what you do – unless it effects others – and there lies the rub.

You push your way into the lives of others because “you know what is right”. You would see us return to back ally abortions because that appeals to your own personal sense of fairness. Smells like conservative sadism – typical ****.

If you really cared so much about the children that COULD come from the unwanted pregnancy then set up an orphanage. Do something positive rather then banging your fist at people smart enough not to fall for your value system. You'd feel better – really.

I could imagination circumstances where a women would be risking her life if she tried to bring a child to term. Maybe she is just in poor health.

The greater point is it is her life. And it is her choice.

And yes, there is a time limit on when an abortion is not an option. And that should be when the child becomes viable outside of the women.

I guess the question then is when does life 2 begin. I don't buy at conception. I'm thinking 3rd trimester . . . .

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A contrarian is a person who takes up a position opposed to that of the majority, no matter how unpopular. Contrarian styles of argument and disagreement have historically been associated with radicalism and dissent.

In Roe vs. Wade, the rallying cry of pro-choicers, they said after the 1st trimester. I've heard people say "at the point that the fetus could survive outside the mother's womb"...but medical advances are making it possible for them to survive younger and younger...a few years ago a 21 week old baby was delivered and survived.

This is something that there will NEVER be agreement on, so the only option is compromise. But nobody wants to compromise either.

compromise on what ?

Murder is murder...

Damn Tim Tebow's mother![frypan]

*****ue me running! That's a funny visual!

Thanks for the laughs!

Johan

That's my role here...

There has to be compromise or we will still be fighting over this 1,000 years from now, and politicians on both sides of the political spectrum will still be using it as a tool to fire up the extreme bases of their parties every election year.

There has to be a discussion. Abortion will never be 100% legal or 100% illegal anywhere, so there has to be compromise.

-When does life begin? The extreme right argues that life begins at conception. While theoretically true, a zygote has no brain, no heart, etc. So the extreme right needs to give a little on this issue. The extreme left thinks that "partial-birth" abortion is OK and that the fetus is still not "legally" a person at this point. This is equally ridiculous and they need to give a little on that.

-How do we balance medical/reproductive freedom and privacy with the need to protect life? The extreme right believes that abortion should be illegal in every case, even when a 14 year old girl is raped by her father. They need to give on this issue. The extreme left believes that abortion is OK as a form of birth control and that insurance companies should be legally required to cover it and taxpayer dollars should pay for it as well. They need to give on this issue.

It really does boil down to compromise. It's the only solution.

Can we compromise, reach a consensus, and decide that a fetus is legally a person at _____ weeks, and has full protection under the law at this point? And then everybody STFU about it?

The reason it won’t get settled is that someone is always using it to push their beliefs. Note that the above “murder is murder” dogma does not come with an “IMO” – it given as though the US law is summarily wrong - as it does not meet with Papal degree.

It is really tough to shoot down 1st trimester abortions with logic or reason. You have to go to religion and personal mortality. And that is why the law is the way it is.

I guess we could make our all our laws base on religious doctrine – if only there were one that was common religion. No hope of that though, people have been killing in God name as long as there has been a God and still no unity – Hummmmm…..