Whistlebritches
Thursday, June 28, 2012 12:26:53 PM

I am not going to even try to explain a 2,400 page bill that no one completely understands, but I can tell you that there is no free government healthcare in this bill.

FuzzNJ wrote:

A 2400 page bill that NO ONE understands..................................

I feel better already.

Ron

ZRX1200
Thursday, June 28, 2012 12:32:59 PM
We have to pass it to see what's in it Ron.
HockeyDad
Thursday, June 28, 2012 12:36:07 PM

We have to pass it to see what's in it Ron.

ZRX1200 wrote:

That's crazy talk....you trying to get FuzzNJ to diagnose you with Alzheimers?

Buckwheat
Thursday, June 28, 2012 12:36:41 PM

WINNING!

gleefully yours,

The Central Scrutinizer

ZRX1200 wrote:

If yah gotta load, or if yah gotta unload, you go to the WHITE ZONE. You'll love it...it's a way of life. That's right, you'll love it, it's a way of life, that's right, you'll love it, it's a way of life, you'll love it. =d>

ZRX1200
Thursday, June 28, 2012 12:39:27 PM
Fuzzy has already nominated me for re-education camp with his local DNC chapter.

I figured alzheimers care had softer beds.

borndead1
Thursday, June 28, 2012 12:42:16 PM
I'm just throwing this out there as a prediction...

Americans, the majority of whom are opposed to Obamacare, will be suckered by a bunch of smooth-talking "tea party republicans" into voting for them with the promise of a repeal of the bill. Then, once in office, they will tweak a few things but the majority of the legislation will stand.

DrMaddVibe
Thursday, June 28, 2012 12:42:38 PM

That's crazy talk....you trying to get FuzzNJ to diagnose you with Alzheimers?

HockeyDad wrote:

Cindy Brady for Surgeon General!

ZRX1200
Thursday, June 28, 2012 12:43:51 PM
Will we get complimentary snickerdoodles with our gubmint cheese now?
jackconrad
Thursday, June 28, 2012 12:46:29 PM
THE REVOLUTION IS ABOUT TO COMMENCE!
cacman
Thursday, June 28, 2012 1:07:02 PM

I'm just throwing this out there as a prediction...

Americans, the majority of whom are opposed to Obamacare, will be suckered by a bunch of smooth-talking "tea party republicans" into voting for them with the promise of a repeal of the bill. Then, once in office, they will tweak a few things but the majority of the legislation will stand.

borndead1 wrote:

Have NEVER seen a tax removed after it is implemented - right or wrong. In Allegheny County of PA they are STILL charging 1% Sales Tax for the Johnstown flood - which happened in a totally different County and in 1889!!!

We're fücked! Once again lawmakers institute a law and tax they themselves are exempt from!!!

wheelrite
Thursday, June 28, 2012 1:16:44 PM
yawn,,,,

I can't wait till the morons who think their Health Care is free now ,realize they still gotta pay for it...

Stinkdyr
Thursday, June 28, 2012 1:17:43 PM

Have NEVER seen a tax removed after it is implemented - right or wrong. In Allegheny County of PA they are STILL charging 1% Sales Tax for the Johnstown flood - which happened in a totally different County and in 1889!!!

We're fücked! Once again lawmakers institute a law and tax they themselves are exempt from!!!

cacman wrote:

So true. Here in Taxholechewschitz, we are still stuck paying a "temporary" income tax hike that is decades old.

Yay!

🌫

bloody spaniard
Thursday, June 28, 2012 1:36:38 PM
HD, Jojo, ZRX, or anybody else who is not an ideologue & willing to be open-minded and not just regurgitate what Boner, Limberger, and company spew- I am in the incipient stages of investigation but it appears that if a small business drops its coverage & pays the penalty for Obamacare, it would first have to qualify under Medicaid??? Oh and vaccines would also be mandated??? 😕
ZRX1200
Thursday, June 28, 2012 1:52:08 PM
Winning!

Again!

Who do you think wrote this legislation? 2400 pages overnight.........

jojoc
Thursday, June 28, 2012 2:22:44 PM

HD, Jojo, ZRX, or anybody else who is not an ideologue & willing to be open-minded and not just regurgitate what Boner, Limberger, and company spew- I am in the incipient stages of investigation but it appears that if a small business drops its coverage & pays the penalty for Obamacare, it would first have to qualify under Medicaid??? Oh and vaccines would also be mandated??? 😕

bloody spaniard wrote:

Bloody - I have not delved too far into the rules of Obamacare yet (but that unfortunately will have to change really soon). my understanding is that business with less than 50 employees will not face a penalty for not providing coverage. I have set up medical reimb plans for a number of small businesses. It is the only way I know of where a business can offer medical benefits but still control 100% of the costs. Depending on the type of entity the business uses, the tax results can vary. S Corp shareholders are required to report the payment on the k1, resulting in a reduction of basis, or taxable income, if no basis left to absorb the distribution. Otherwise, the reimb is deductible by the employer and tax free to the employee. One way around the S Corp issue is if the shareholder's spouse is a non-shareholder employee, run the reimbursement through the nonshareholder spouse (which covers spouses and dependents).

HockeyDad
Thursday, June 28, 2012 2:25:44 PM
....and if you have more than 50 employees.....well.....you know what to do.
jojoc
Thursday, June 28, 2012 2:35:05 PM

....and if you have more than 50 employees.....well.....you know what to do.

HockeyDad wrote:

fire them ..........

start a bunch of independent companies with less than 50 employees and sub-contract out .......

move more jobs oversees ...................

blame the French 🤦

HockeyDad
Thursday, June 28, 2012 2:36:55 PM
I would have charged $300/hour for that advice. You're undercutting my business!
drywalldog
Thursday, June 28, 2012 3:15:08 PM
Poor righties, first Ron Paul lost, then Mitt won, now Judge Roberts showed his true colors, and voted for Obamacare. When will the carnage end? How much more can they take. Why didnt Fox News, or Ruush see this coming? At least the Skyway bridge is open.
Numismaniac
Thursday, June 28, 2012 3:25:02 PM
I been warning everyone, better learn to be self sufficient, guess I better start dusting off my plant medicine journals, hehe.

Seriously, though, we have Tenncare here, started off to be universal for the uninsured, that didn't last long, hehe. Now it covers children only. Do a little research on it, most of the politicians, whether Demorat or Republirans, have avoided telling the truths!