teedubbya
Sunday, September 2, 2012 11:12:42 PM
By the way I think abortion is just as horrific in the first as the third trimester. But in your mind you can't compute that.
drywalldog
Sunday, September 2, 2012 11:14:05 PM
Wheel, I am against abortion, just dont think that rape victum doesnt have any rights, and to make someone who has gone thru it and have the further trauma of raising a child she didnt ask for in the first place.
teedubbya
Sunday, September 2, 2012 11:14:52 PM
Don't even get me started on doctors performing potentially life threatening mutilations in the name of cultural taboos.
wheelrite
Sunday, September 2, 2012 11:17:05 PM

I'm not anti porn but if you think it's harmless and you are not financing murder, kidnapping and rape it's because you don't want to know.

teedubbya wrote:

ok that's Fnn moronic,,

you'll never win this debate,,

The affects of Legal Porn with consenting whores is the same as abortion on a society,,, ?

dude..

teedubbya
Sunday, September 2, 2012 11:20:19 PM
Blissfully ignorant wheel.
teedubbya
Sunday, September 2, 2012 11:23:42 PM
Porn is likely more detrimental to our society than abortion. That said, I'm not the one getting all high and mighty about either.

I don't even think we should outlaw doctors performing unnecessary mutilations that result at times in death. Some zealots would call that murder.

I just worry about who gets to define such things and am amazed at the wisdom of our founding fathers.

wheelrite
Sunday, September 2, 2012 11:24:13 PM

Wheel, I am against abortion, just dont think that rape victum doesnt have any rights, and to make someone who has gone thru it and have the further trauma of raising a child she didnt ask for in the first place.

drywalldog wrote:

Ya see ?

The truely innocent child in the womb did'nt have a say regarding when it was conceived. Sure it may be under traqgic circumstances.

But, the precious human life does have the right to gestate and be born.

See, the lib attitude toward this diminshes the value of life.

Me, I'm a Catholic, pro life anti death penalty guy,,

consistent, and all

and sure I like da porn

wheelrite
Sunday, September 2, 2012 11:25:55 PM

Porn is likely more detrimental to our society than abortion.

teedubbya wrote:

You are an Idiot..

teedubbya
Sunday, September 2, 2012 11:28:12 PM
There is a good chance some of the porn you have watched was not consensual, and there was human trafficking and likely one life or more taken as a direct result. But pretend it isn't so.
wheelrite
Sunday, September 2, 2012 11:31:05 PM

There is a good chance some of the porn you have watched was not consensual, and there was human trafficking and likely one life or more taken as a direct result. But pretend it isn't so.

teedubbya wrote:

There's a good chance yo momma would've aborted you if it was legal in 60s.

cool with dat ?🍺

teedubbya
Sunday, September 2, 2012 11:34:13 PM
Yup. No issue with that at all. It's in gods hands.

drywalldog
Sunday, September 2, 2012 11:35:18 PM
I am Catholic too Wheel, maybe the right thing would be to remove the growing fetus from the rape victum and force it upon someone else, transplant it to someone who believes there should be no abortion?
wheelrite
Sunday, September 2, 2012 11:44:54 PM

I am Catholic too Wheel, maybe the right thing would be to remove the growing fetus from the rape victum and force it upon someone else, transplant it to someone who believes there should be no abortion?

drywalldog wrote:

Another idiotic response...

What if ?

If an unfortunate minority woman was raped and the child in her would grow up and discover the the cure for all cancers ?

It'd be ok then to let the child live, right ?

Or, he /she would struggle, raise a family and love her /his family ? They would make no impact on society ?. So we should abort all of them because it is convenient and might cost us less ?

please tell me?

wheelrite
Sunday, September 2, 2012 11:45:41 PM

I am Catholic too Wheel, maybe the right thing would be to remove the growing fetus from the rape victum and force it upon someone else, transplant it to someone who believes there should be no abortion?

drywalldog wrote:

Another idiotic response...

What if ?

If an unfortunate minority woman was raped and the child in her would grow up and discover the the cure for all cancers ?

It'd be ok then to let the child live, right ?

Or, he /she would struggle, raise a family and love her /his family ? They would make no impact on society ?. So we should abort all of them because it is convenient and might cost us less ?

please tell me?

drywalldog
Sunday, September 2, 2012 11:50:34 PM
Guess you didnt like my idea, why? Of course you have posed a couple of the possible outcomes, there are many more not so nice.
cwilhelmi
Monday, September 3, 2012 10:01:32 AM
"Sister Joan Chittister, a Benedictine nun, had this to say on Bill Moyers' show in November of 2004:

I do not believe that just because you're opposed to abortion, that that makes you pro-life. In fact, I think in many cases, your morality is deeply lacking if all you want is a child born but not a child fed, not a child educated, not a child housed. And why would I think that you don't? Because you don't want any tax money to go there. That's not pro-life. That's pro-birth. We need a much broader conversation on what the morality of pro-life is."

victor809
Monday, September 3, 2012 6:31:53 PM

hmm ?

screwing on camera for $$ vs klling a baby in the 3rd trimester .

hmm ?

wheelrite wrote:

Wheel... how many abortions do you actually think occur in the 3rd trimester?

victor809
Monday, September 3, 2012 6:33:11 PM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:US_abortion_by_gestational_age_2004_histogram.svg 

I wish people would look crap up before they start forming opinions.

wheelrite
Monday, September 3, 2012 7:54:00 PM

Wheel... how many abortions do you actually think occur in the 3rd trimester?

victor809 wrote:

One is too many...

8trackdisco
Monday, September 3, 2012 9:13:44 PM

Who doesn't want there to be the right to abortion following rape? Just curious (not critical)?

rfenst wrote:

I would think the rapist would be in favor of the abortion. Cheaper than paying child support.