victor809
Friday, October 5, 2012 4:32:35 PM
Specifics are useless (from either side) as that just provides anecdotes (same problem you have). I'm trying to see if anyone ever did a study showing conflict resolution.

If you want anecdotes, any time a complaint is filed against an Islamic student praying in class. That counts as "tattling"... complaints against a scoutmaster being gay... complaints against there being free condoms in the nurses office.

ZRX1200
Friday, October 5, 2012 4:33:58 PM
Rugby players narcing on ruffians.....
HockeyDad
Friday, October 5, 2012 4:35:27 PM

They congregate in Georgetown so that every time they return home the can pass the sign that says "Entering George...town"

Just sayin.

I know. Because I live on Cape Cod and I blush every time I drive through Dennis...

tailgater wrote:

Wait until winter and someone has to plow Dennis.

tailgater
Friday, October 5, 2012 4:40:08 PM

Specifics are useless (from either side) as that just provides anecdotes (same problem you have). I'm trying to see if anyone ever did a study showing conflict resolution.

If you want anecdotes, any time a complaint is filed against an Islamic student praying in class. That counts as "tattling"... complaints against a scoutmaster being gay... complaints against there being free condoms in the nurses office.

victor809 wrote:

In order:

1. Islamic prayers: You don't confront the individual because we're not upset about them being Islamic. It's their insistence to stop in their tracks, lay out the prayer mat, and face mecca regardless of others around them.

2. gay scoutmaster: again. You can't tell someone to "not be gay". If you have an issue with your kid spending nights in the woods with a homosexual you might feel compelled to bring it to someones attention. being that we're talking about the scouts, it's obvious that the guy is liar since they don't allow that. (note: not my argument. I personally would speak to the dude to let him know that some will watch him more closely than a straight guy).

3. Condoms: How do you confront a condom face to face? Nevermind. You're rugby. You already know...

tailgater
Friday, October 5, 2012 4:40:45 PM

Wait until winter and someone has to plow Dennis.

HockeyDad wrote:

I'm moving up to Shirley.

victor809
Friday, October 5, 2012 4:48:57 PM

In order:

1. Islamic prayers: You don't confront the individual because we're not upset about them being Islamic. It's their insistence to stop in their tracks, lay out the prayer mat, and face mecca regardless of others around them.

2. gay scoutmaster: again. You can't tell someone to "not be gay". If you have an issue with your kid spending nights in the woods with a homosexual you might feel compelled to bring it to someones attention. being that we're talking about the scouts, it's obvious that the guy is liar since they don't allow that. (note: not my argument. I personally would speak to the dude to let him know that some will watch him more closely than a straight guy).

3. Condoms: How do you confront a condom face to face? Nevermind. You're rugby. You already know...

tailgater wrote:

Ummm.. then in what way are you talking about "tattling"? Any of the above examples could have an up-front interaction.

Are you seriously going to give me the following argument:

"Conservatives are more up-front about dealing with issues and don't tattle behind someones back. As long as the issue is a very specific situation in which I am imagining my fantasy conservative man on a white horse"?

Mattie B
Friday, October 5, 2012 4:54:48 PM

If one person is offended, the thread should be pulled.

And if one person is offended by cigars or cigar smoke, they should no longer be sold.

It is important that nobody is ever offended by anything ever again.

8trackdisco wrote:

I find your face offensive

victor809
Friday, October 5, 2012 4:57:44 PM
I can't find any studies. Best I've got are brain studies.

http://newsroom.unl.edu/releases/2012/02/01/Political+biology%3A+The+left+rolls+with+the+good,+the+right+confronts+the+bad 

Doesn't really give us much on conflict resolution tho.

Conservatives have poor emotional control when it comes to "change"

http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/intersection/2011/09/07/your-brain-on-politics-the-cognitive-neuroscience-of-liberals-and-conservatives/ 

Also doesn't actually say how a person handles "conflict" just that people with a smaller ACC (conservatives) would have a more emotional and less logical response.

So, what we're left with is anecdotes, and your oft loved belief that liberals go and tattle, while conservatives are forthright and up-front people (as long as it's under certain situations).

tailgater
Friday, October 5, 2012 5:00:00 PM

Ummm.. then in what way are you talking about "tattling"? Any of the above examples could have an up-front interaction.

Are you seriously going to give me the following argument:

"Conservatives are more up-front about dealing with issues and don't tattle behind someones back. As long as the issue is a very specific situation in which I am imagining my fantasy conservative man on a white horse"?

victor809 wrote:

Read more slowly.

You might comprehend the words.

You can't decipher the difference between typing a "confrontation" on a cigar forum and approaching a gay scout leader to out him?

Really?

Is that your stance, Senator Craig?

victor809
Friday, October 5, 2012 5:03:03 PM

Read more slowly.

You might comprehend the words.

You can't decipher the difference between typing a "confrontation" on a cigar forum and approaching a gay scout leader to out him?

Really?

Is that your stance, Senator Craig?

tailgater wrote:

So, you're restricting this to cigar forum confrontations now?

What the hell is your sample size for "liberal"??? Rick? Trish already said he doesn't tattle. Me? I'm much too confrontational.... All you're left with is conservatives. You guys are tattling on each other! 🙂

tailgater
Friday, October 5, 2012 5:08:04 PM

So, you're restricting this to cigar forum confrontations now?

What the hell is your sample size for "liberal"??? Rick? Trish already said he doesn't tattle. Me? I'm much too confrontational.... All you're left with is conservatives. You guys are tattling on each other! :)

victor809 wrote:

Perhaps.

But it's well accepted that this group of BOTL don't conform to typical societal rules.

victor809
Friday, October 5, 2012 5:14:02 PM

Perhaps.

But it's well accepted that this group of BOTL don't conform to typical societal rules.

tailgater wrote:

Bah! you're slipperier than a naked greased deaf guy... (family guy reference, don't get too excited)

Anyway, I've got to go and drink.

Then I have to go hit things and hope that my knee keeps its tenuous grasp on functionality for another week, and that whatever broke in my nose last week managed to heal enough not to get worse.... you have fun!

tailgater
Friday, October 5, 2012 5:26:18 PM

Bah! you're slipperier than a naked greased deaf guy... (family guy reference, don't get too excited)

Anyway, I've got to go and drink.

Then I have to go hit things and hope that my knee keeps its tenuous grasp on functionality for another week, and that whatever broke in my nose last week managed to heal enough not to get worse.... you have fun!

victor809 wrote:

I know you said something about a tenuous grasp on a naked greased deaf guy, but I'm too tired to be concerned about that.

ta ta

8trackdisco
Saturday, October 6, 2012 9:27:05 AM

Agreed. But thin skinned whinyness comes in all political flavors. Just because the thread started with a bash on our president, doesn't mean the offended individuals were liberals.

victor809 wrote:

It comes down to Thinkers vs Feelers. Thinkers think, and share their opinions. Feelers based most of their decisions on how they feel. It is more of a liberal thing (governed by emotions) than a feminine thing But to Victor's point, conservatives are certainly not immune.

If I had a dollar for every time a republican political figure makes a stupid comment, there is always a rush RepubIdiots that can't help themselves with "Yeah, but Obama did/said________"

It is akin to defending Hitler being good person; killing only 6 million Jews, because Stalin killed 20 million of his people.

8trackdisco
Saturday, October 6, 2012 9:30:47 AM

We need a special members only "pulled threads" site.

ZRX1200 wrote:

Maybe in their spare time, the Platinum could carry out that task.

pdxstogieman
Sunday, October 7, 2012 2:01:57 PM

Yes.

Because only the kkk can poke fun at Obama speaking like a southern baptist minister.

Vic, this is why nobody really listens to liberals. And why so few liberals self identify themselves as such.

I realize the rest of your post was actually true. This IS about the money.

But even subtle jabs that suggest racism whenever a critique or an attempt at humor is made shows that the liberal agenda is a one-trick pony.

tailgater wrote:

I realize it's now time to get a new avatar in the tradition of several luminaries in here that hit the funny bone with those high larious Al Jolson minstrel and chimpanzee potus images. Haw, Haw, Haw. Just hafta join in pokin' fun at dem politically correctified liberbulls.

bloody spaniard
Sunday, October 7, 2012 3:34:36 PM

I realize it's now time to get a new avatar in the tradition of several luminaries in here that hit the funny bone with those high larious Al Jolson minstrel and chimpanzee potus images. Haw, Haw, Haw. Just hafta join in pokin' fun at dem politically correctified liberbulls.

pdxstogieman wrote:

HAHAHA! I imagine it must feel good removing your sanctimonious snitch, er, I mean stick from your ass.

Good for you on the new Amos 'n Andy avatar! Pointing out others blatant avatar racism (white man in blackface & a monkey) through the derisive use of two fine comedic African American actors is good fun.=d>

pdxstogieman
Sunday, October 7, 2012 5:43:59 PM

HAHAHA! I imagine it must feel good removing your sanctimonious snitch, er, I mean stick from your ass.

Good for you on the new Amos 'n Andy avatar! Pointing out others blatant avatar racism (white man in blackface & a monkey) through the derisive use of two fine comedic African American actors is good fun.=d>

bloody spaniard wrote:

Hey sorry I hit your white guilt nerve. All I was doing was getting in line with the social norms here. I'm disappointed that you don't find emulation the sincerest form of flattery.

Abrignac
Sunday, October 7, 2012 6:02:32 PM

Hey sorry I hit your white guilt nerve. All I was doing was getting in line with the social norms here. I'm disappointed that you don't find emulation the sincerest form of flattery.

pdxstogieman wrote:

I TAKE IT BACK OUTRAGE

TrishS@CigarBid
Sunday, October 7, 2012 7:25:29 PM

If one person is offended, the thread should be pulled.

And if one person is offended by cigars or cigar smoke, they should no longer be sold.

It is important that nobody is ever offended by anything ever again.

8trackdisco wrote:

I didn't pull the thread until several people complained. You'd be surprised how many threads are complained about that are still here.