Bentakemoto
Friday, May 10, 2013 3:53:57 PM

why cant you just find the slope of the taper and sand it at the proper angle?

robertsccr5 wrote:

I'm pretty sure that's what I'm going to do. The way the trays are made though makes that risky because i need to sand about 1/4" and the sides are 1/8" at the bottom.

Bentakemoto
Friday, May 10, 2013 3:54:40 PM

That's gotta suck.

TimFusco wrote:

It does.

Definitely ruined my evening lol

TimFusco
Friday, May 10, 2013 4:47:44 PM
I feel for ya. This is interesting watching you guys do your wineadors....
Bentakemoto
Friday, May 10, 2013 5:42:19 PM

I feel for ya. This is interesting watching you guys do your wineadors....

TimFusco wrote:

Definitely a learning experience.

shaun341
Friday, May 10, 2013 5:53:12 PM

I'm pretty sure that's what I'm going to do. The way the trays are made though makes that risky because i need to sand about 1/4" and the sides are 1/8" at the bottom.

Bentakemoto wrote:

I built my own drawers over the winter and did the same thing. Measured the front and they fit in half way then were to tight. I took a hand planer and just hit it from the middle back and the fit right in.

Bentakemoto
Friday, May 10, 2013 5:56:22 PM

I built my own drawers over the winter and did the same thing. Measured the front and they fit in half way then were to tight. I took a hand planer and just hit it from the middle back and the fit right in.

shaun341 wrote:

I'm hoping to be able to just take a belt sander to the back half.

JGKAMIN
Friday, May 10, 2013 8:24:01 PM

It does.

Definitely ruined my evening lol

Bentakemoto wrote:

I remember waiting on my shelves last year and what was promised to be 2 weeks turned into months and after getting on him I finally got them. I wish he'd have been a little more upfront on the waiting time. Since they I see he's added that expedited rate, which I doubt I'd pay anyway, just would appreciate not being strung along.

Bentakemoto
Saturday, May 11, 2013 3:19:32 PM
Yeah he quoted 5 weeks time for mine, and they took 9 weeks time.
JGKAMIN
Saturday, May 11, 2013 10:12:23 PM
The work ended up decent.
robertsccr5
Saturday, May 11, 2013 10:13:08 PM

Yeah he quoted 5 weeks time for mine, and they took 9 weeks time.

Bentakemoto wrote:

I better order mine soon. I finally filled mine and I still have about 100ish smokes that didnt fit. I am just storing boxes and two small cedar trays. One I get the custom drawers it will fit much more, there's a lot of wasted space otherwise.

cwilhelmi
Monday, June 17, 2013 5:39:09 PM
I just wish they had a full size model, like 200 bottle. I've been investigating the electronics supply sites for a peltier cooler and the other components, but then I have to build a cabinet. For now my smokes will go subterranean to avoid the NY heat.
Roaster Dude
Monday, June 17, 2013 6:22:42 PM
Z.

Dont bother, you dont need active humidification.

Just use beads they work great. The more the better.

Once everything is up to the right RH its rock solid with just beads.

you can throw a 65% bovida pack in there to use as a guide to add water.

super simple and reliable.

my .02

RD

Picked this one up yesterday, been looking too, for the last couple months. Found this one, pulled the trigger. definitely go with the 280. i like that one, have room for my boxes. and a few drawers for singles, which is most of what i have right now.

Now, for humidification. Any one using active humidifier in theirs? i read people have been using an active one, and replacing the foam with beads? not sure how that works.

Zmarkadonis wrote:

Taps86
Monday, June 17, 2013 7:12:03 PM

Z.

Dont bother, you dont need active humidification.

Just use beads they work great. The more the better.

Once everything is up to the right RH its rock solid with just beads.

you can throw a 65% bovida pack in there to use as a guide to add water.

super simple and reliable.

my .02

RD

Roaster Dude wrote:

I use boveda packets. Never had any problem. Just use the light every now and then.

mikey1597
Monday, June 17, 2013 7:54:42 PM
55!
Taps86
Tuesday, June 18, 2013 12:29:05 PM
Stole from another site...

Hey gang, @Mad4Cigars and @jakecartier3 thought I might be of value on wineadors. Thanks for the heads-up gents! I'm the Business Development Director at Boveda where we make a range of humidities for industries ranging from tobacco, music, food, electronics, medical devices, pharmaceuticals and herbal medication. We're the only ones in the world that do what we do, so we have a number of companies who come to us for packaging/container advice for using Boveda.

Wine coolers and flip-top coolers are fantastic for moisture control because unlike wood boxes, they don't leak or absorb much moisture. This means that Boveda works very efficiently inside, adding or removing moisture depending on the conditions to achieve the 62, 65, 69, 72 or 75% you're after.

HOWEVER, when you're using the refrigeration of the wine cooler (some do, some don't) you're scrubbing moisture from the air. This means that any time the refrigeration is on, Boveda goes into overdrive to make up for it, because the fan is much faster than the Boveda. Can refrigeration + Boveda work? Absolutely. There are just far too many variables for me to even begin to suggest how many you should use. But here's the good news: it's impossible to use "too many" because Boveda can't humidify beyond the RH on the pack. Boveda only has minimum requirements to make sure you have enough horsepower, where everything else has a "max fill" or suggested spray/submerge/wet amount. They're admitting you can use "too much". So if you really want Boveda's zero-maintenance to work, I'd suggest using more than your brain thinks will be needed. If you throw 10 in there and it's stable where you want it, you might notice that after 4 months the Boveda are still soft (water to give up). This would mean you could easily use five Boveda for 2+ months in there. Working it the other way, if you start with two Boveda and they die in a month, four will get you two months.

On the other hand, wine coolers that aren't using the refrigeration, they'll behave much like a flip-top cooler. We have coolers here with 20-30 boxes in them and 4-6 Boveda and we open them whenever we think to, which can be months and months. It wouldn't be uncommon for Boveda to last a year or more in there.

So if you want max efficiency, skip the refrigeration if you're storing cigars in your wine cooler. The cool air does zero for the cigars (even if your brain says otherwise) and it reduces the moisture control efficiency. If your brain still wants refrigeration but you also want max efficiency, store your "could smoke at any time cigars" in a tupperware with Boveda inside the wine cooler. That way, they aren't affected by the moisture scrubbing. As for the overflow, coolers with Boveda are the world's best way to age cigars effectively and efficiently.

I vote @Mad4Cigars the official guinea pig for a test. Here are my thoughts: We have a flip-top cooler that measures 12x12x22 which equals 1.83 cubic feet. We have 4 packs in it that are labeled 12.10.12 (we write the dates on all the Boveda we put in stuff to know how long they lasted) and they have plenty still left. So why don't I send a dozen of @Mad4Cigars preferred RH and you can start with 8-10. Keep it closed until it gets to the RH on the pack. That'll give us an idea how many packs it'll take to get a cubic foot (at least in THAT wine cooler) up. Fire your address to charles(dot)rutherford(at)bovedainc(dot)com and we'll get them on the way!

Taps86
Tuesday, June 18, 2013 12:33:45 PM
robertsccr5
Tuesday, June 18, 2013 1:12:25 PM
I have the 18 ct wineador stuffed with cedar boxes and a couple trays and all I use for humidity is one tube of beads. I have it plugged in since it can get pretty warm throughout the summer here. I am constantly at 66 degrees and 67 RH. so far I've had zero condensation issues and on really hot days have a small increase in temperature.
Taps86
Tuesday, June 18, 2013 1:19:06 PM

I have the 18 ct wineador stuffed with cedar boxes and a couple trays and all I use for humidity is one tube of beads. I have it plugged in since it can get pretty warm throughout the summer here. I am constantly at 66 degrees and 67 RH. so far I've had zero condensation issues and on really hot days have a small increase in temperature.

robertsccr5 wrote:

You have a thermoelectric though, No?

robertsccr5
Tuesday, June 18, 2013 1:28:44 PM
yup, it's the newair 180. I ordered drawers from wineadors.com about 4-5ish weeks ago, should be another few weeks before I see those.