Welcome pma. You in Antelope Valley? I'm in Downey, southeast LA county.
California B & M prices are outrageous, and Graycliffs are way over-priced. Wonder if the price tag affected your enjoyment of the cigar? Had a Graycliff Crystal gifted once, and thought it was great. Bought some online here at 25% of what they sell for at the local, and they weren't as good as I remembered the first one, but very good. Actually bought one for $23.50 at the local for comparison and it was better than the CBid version, but not 4 times better. Both were slightly different than the first, which was the best. One of the worst cigars I ever smoked was a Graycliff Professionale (blue label, and guessing it was an internet version).
There have been several discussions on here about cigar makers (Graycliff and others) licensing big internet purveyors to blend some cigars, use their labels and sell them. How true do they stick with the tobaccos in the original blend? Who knows...but I have a hunch.... Try the search function here for an enlightening discussion about that. Good luck.
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