EI
  • EI
  • Herf-A-Holic
Sunday, March 27, 2005 3:14:00 AM
adroomi, You just mentioned all the country's that strive to emulate the US

The Canadians even cross the border to go to work and shop

countryboy83
Sunday, March 27, 2005 3:33:00 AM
.... I'm just sittin' here trying to imagine my highschool shop teacher being allowed to holster a loaded weapon.....

{in the news today}... Tim Crabtree, the shop teacher at Lakeview Fort Oglethorpe High School is in critical condition after attempting a chancing game of Russian Roulette with his Goverment Issued handgun this morning. Crabtree did not realize that the handgun was not a revolver but was in fact a single shot pistol. His last words before the game of Roulette were... "Dude....Hey Ya'll, Check this **** out"...

adroomi
Sunday, March 27, 2005 4:03:00 AM
EI,

........tell me, what makes you think they try to be like us? I've spent time in each of those countries and I can assure you that the culture, people, and way of life is nothing like America, and the last thing they want is to be "just like us."

So Canadians come to the US to work and shop.....so? We go there to work and shop too.

I'm sort of at a loss here.......I don't see Thai people or Aussies trying to be anything but Thai people or Aussies........and very rarely by the way will you ever meet a Thai or Aussie that wants to leave their country for ours......in fact, I can't think of a single one that ever has. Can you?

donutboy2000
Sunday, March 27, 2005 10:02:00 AM
usahog
Sunday, March 27, 2005 10:32:00 AM
I haven't been following this topic.. but I went to High School in Peoria IL. and the security guards at my School were packing.. as far as Teachers needing to Pack?? I'd say it like JonR pointed out.. If they wanted to then they would have to qualify for just that... the way things are going in the schools nowadays it may better education... one things for sure it would cut down on the threat of Enrollment Decreases by other means....

Hog

usahog
Sunday, March 27, 2005 10:50:00 AM
one more thought on this one... a person who has an intention to create harm to another would have second thoughts about doing so.. knowing that the possiblity lies here that they may face someone who will tort their plans!!!

Hog

JonR
Sunday, March 27, 2005 2:22:00 PM
Hmmm I hear you adroomi and countryboy83, now hear me.

1) It's a proven fact that students bring into school razors, knives, screwdrivers, handguns, shotguns, and explosives and use these items to maim and murder other students, teachers and guards.

2) It's a proven fact that parents of students and rejected lovers have entered schools with weapons and maimed and murdered teachers and students.

I have never read in a newspaper or seen on the internet or television any news about a teacher walking into school armed with weapons to kill other teachers or students.

I guess your hypothetical rantings might be justified, if Superman was addressing a high school assembly an a teacher went ballistic and attacked him with a chunk of green kriptonite, eh.

LMAO

JonR

adroomi
Sunday, March 27, 2005 5:31:00 PM
donuts,

I couldn't get your page to open. I did find on the main page though where 1 in 10 people that move "long-term" go to the USA. Of the people that move, 50% are Aussie-Born. So this gives me 1 in 20 native born Aussies choose to move to the USA.

Would you care to compare those numbers with the amount of Americans that are packing up and heading down under?

Regardless, I shouldn't have asked for these stats. All I did was open up discussion for "how great we are."

In regards to everyone in those countries above wanting to be "like us." Give me a break. Tell an Englishman he wants to be like an American......better yet, say it to him in a pub after a couple pints.

adroomi
Sunday, March 27, 2005 5:33:00 PM
...make that 1 in 20 native born Aussies that "move long term." not 1 in 20 Aussies.
JonR
Monday, March 28, 2005 12:02:00 PM
News Break

03/28/2005 14:54:06 EST Ann Heisenfelt/AP Photo

Teacher Killed in School Shooting Mourned

By STEVE KARNOWSKI

Associated Press Writer

BEMIDJI, Minn. - The teacher gunned down in a 16-year-old boy's attack on his schoolmates was remembered Monday as a selfless woman who died praying for her students.

Neva Rogers "will be remembered always for a selfless act of love," the Rev. Genelle Netland told more than 300 mourners at Calvary Lutheran Church.

"She symbolizes and embodies all teachers everywhere, for the courage it took, for the strength it took, for the sense of wanting that it took, to care about others with all of yourself - your entire self," Netland said. That "represents a gift to everyone," she said.

Rogers, 62, was the only teacher killed by gunman Jeff Weise, a depressed teenager who stormed through Red Lake High School killing five students, a security guard and Rogers before turning the gun on himself. Witnesses said Rogers was praying "God be with us. God help us" just before Weise shot her.

"I am in awe of the incredible courage and faith she showed us in those last moments," said U.S. Sen. Mark Dayton, himself a former schoolteacher.

School board member Charmaine Branchaud paid tribute to Rogers' dedication to her students.

"We are all in this together, and hopefully there will be a change so our communities can come together and these deaths will not be in vain," she said.

Rogers was laid to rest in an ivory casket topped with a large bouquet of red roses. Family members followed the casket outside for the burial in the church cemetery.

Rogers was the only non-Indian killed in the shootings on the Red Lake Band of Chippewa's reservation, about half an hour north of Bemidji. Family members said she felt needed at Red Lake, a place where teens deal with poverty, pregnancy and violence regularly.

Mourners wrote messages for the family on a large white piece of paper hanging in the church lobby.

"She was the kindest person. I was lucky to be one of her students," one person wrote.

"Sorry for what happened. She will be missed. Miigwetch," wrote another, using the Ojibwe word for "thanks." The message was signed by Summer Weise; it couldn't immediately be determined whether she was related to the gunman.

"A very special, caring, loving and compassionate teacher. She will be greatly missed. We have been blessed to have her as a teacher at Red Lake. Thank you," another mourner wrote.

Services for security guard Derrick Brun, 14-year-old student Alicia Alberta White and Weise, the gunman, were also planned for Monday. Services for Daryl Lussier, his companion Michelle Sigana, and student Chase Lussier were held Saturday.

Authorities say Weise's first victims last Monday were Sigana and Daryl Lussier, his grandfather and a longtime tribal police officer. They say Weisse took Lussier's handgun and shotgun, and drove his police SUV, to the high school to continue his rampage. It was the worst U.S. school shooting since Columbine.

Youse guys are right, teachers should not be armed they might go ballistic and shoot an innocent mass murderer.

JonR

THL
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Monday, March 28, 2005 2:24:00 PM
"ARE THESE PEOPLE CRAZY?"

Yes, we all are.

I don't see why people beat themselves up with guilt. It's the kid's fault, no one else's.