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11 years ago

I'd go with the Nicaraguan 2nds. They are quite good and, in fact, I just scored on two bundles myself this week. Most Alec Bradleys, including his so-called super-premiums, usually have construction issues. Those who tell you that all seconds are garbage, obviously haven't triied them all.

QMPASH wrote:



Tried enough of them to know I don't want to "try" any more.

Bad part about seconds, is they take up space... Valuable, space that could be used for something I'm not just "trying" by the bundle.
youngra
11 years ago

Has anyone ordered any of the 2nds that are offered here on CBID? I was looking at some of the Alec Bradley and Oliva 2nds offerings and just wanted some opinions. The only reservation I have had is not knowing which offering it is.

collectorchris wrote:



Give 'em a whirl if you want - worse comes to worse you have some yard gars or something to hand out to those who don't know any better.🍺

But take all the comments to heart - the "gang" here (🌫 AZZHAT INC.) has been there and done that and we all have our own..... OPINIONS, ya, that's it, OPINIONS. And opinions are like azz wholes - we all have one. Took me a while to talk myself outta buying a mazo of the macanudo knock offs - my brother loves Macanudos but I figured I already have enough real ones stashed to keep him happy for a year or two, so why waste the room.

Just my $0.02

Carry on

RY
🇨🇮
collectorchris
11 years ago

If you want to run with the big dogs, you need to learn to pee in the tall grass.


Abrignac wrote:



I notice there is allot of pissing on the grass that goes on here 🤦

Batman, that was the purpose of the silky looking sissy tights in the 60's right, less ball sack drag and could still get your tickle on in the tall grass?
TheSmokensip
11 years ago
Nicaraguan Boutique 2nds i thought were pretty good last time i tried them .
QMPASH
11 years ago

I just dropped some seconds, probably smoke just as well. Any intrest in buying?

AB regular line sucks, can't imagne what the seconds are…

Plowboy221 wrote:


PM me and let me know what you have.
bassman45
11 years ago
2nds=noobs[ram27bat]
hoyodude
11 years ago

2nds=noobs[ram27bat]

bassman45 wrote:



Entirely incorrect.

I've got the remains of the Nic. Ligero 2nd's and AB 2nd's I bought a couple of years ago and they are tasting quite good, thank you. I recently (in the past 6 mo.) discovered the CI Knock-off LGC's are pretty nice for similar money.

Anyone who judges your taste in cigars must be living a far too uninteresting life. Smoke what ya like, eff everyone else...or something like that...🌫
Abrignac
11 years ago

Entirely incorrect.

I've got the remains of the Nic. Ligero 2nd's and AB 2nd's I bought a couple of years ago and they are tasting quite good, thank you. I recently (in the past 6 mo.) discovered the CI Knock-off LGC's are pretty nice for similar money.

Anyone who judges your taste in cigars must be living a far too uninteresting life. Smoke what ya like, eff everyone else...or something like that...🌫

hoyodude wrote:



I used to buy and smoke plenty of AB's. I really liked the flavor profile of the Family Blend line. Eventually, I tired of having to touch up crappy burns and quit buying them. I can only imagine what kind construction issues the seconds must have.

As far as judging one's taste in cigars, I say the only person whose opinion really matters is the person who is buying them.
hoyodude
11 years ago
Sorry you had a bad experience. I'm not a real fan of the AB line in general, seem to be very inconsistent, but the 2'nds I've still got, while not my #1 go-to smoke, are actually burning just fine. You can't ever know what someone else's experience is going to be, just your own. Even judging the burn. We may keep our cigars differently for all you know...the aging MIGHT affect them...who knows?
TMCTLT
11 years ago

Sorry you had a bad experience. I'm not a real fan of the AB line in general, seem to be very inconsistent, but the 2'nds I've still got, while not my #1 go-to smoke, are actually burning just fine. You can't ever know what someone else's experience is going to be, just your own. Even judging the burn. We may keep our cigars differently for all you know...the aging MIGHT affect them...who knows?

hoyodude wrote:




Hoyo, I'm right there with you....many years ago another famous auction site sold AB seconds they referred to as Sup. Selection....and I enjoyed them very much. And with their packaging you pretty well knew what you were getting as well as what size. ( wished I still had some of the " old ones "

The issue I have with say the Oliva seconds here is you have NO idea what line....what wrapper etc. that your getting. I've been tempted to buy some Oliva seconds but don't want a bunch of Connecticut cigars if that's what they are. And I have to laugh sometimes at other s whining about having to touch up their cigar, of course we all would love to smoke nothing but cigars that burn razor sharp, but then there's reality...I don't let the fact that I might have to touch up the burn a little on a cigar keep me from buying them again if I otherwise enjoy that particular cigar. just my .02
Abrignac
11 years ago

Sorry you had a bad experience. I'm not a real fan of the AB line in general, seem to be very inconsistent, but the 2'nds I've still got, while not my #1 go-to smoke, are actually burning just fine. You can't ever know what someone else's experience is going to be, just your own. Even judging the burn. We may keep our cigars differently for all you know...the aging MIGHT affect them...who knows?

hoyodude wrote:



That's an interesting thought. I kept them in the same humidor that all my other cigars were stored in. Had it been an environment issue, then I would think all of, or at least a significant amount, my non AB cigars would have had the same issues.
ZRX1200
11 years ago
I've had burn issues with at least one of every type of AB I've ever bought.
Abrignac
11 years ago

I've had burn issues with at least one of every type of AB I've ever bought.

ZRX1200 wrote:



Thanks Jamie. I was beginning to believe the burn issues were something I had caused.
danmdevries
11 years ago

Thanks Jamie. I was beginning to believe the burn issues were something I had caused.

Abrignac wrote:



Nope.

Great flavor, just dont burn right.
collectorchris
11 years ago
Great information for the pros and cons, so thanks for opinions on both sides of the coin. I went ahead and picked up a lot of 10 AB's for about a $1.50 per stick. Even if they are half decent smokes, it is worth the price even if just for grass cutting smokes or to dole out to friends that may want to try a stick.
hoyodude
11 years ago
Like I mentioned earlier, I find AB's very inconsistent which is why I gave up on buying them. It just happens these 2nds haven't had any burn issues. Simple as that.
tamapatom
11 years ago
I used to buy some pretty decent seconds then I stumbled on some fantastic (but pricier) cigars and said to myself....wow, I could smoke 1/2 as much, smoke better stuff and have the same out of pocket. I have in the past tried to chase down the good bargain gars under $3 but not alway lucky. Still a need for a yard gar or disposable cigar but those times seem to be less and less of my allotted smoking time. That being said, there are a lot of super high end cigars that I have a hard time justifying the price/pleasure ratio.I am now concentrating my recon on the middle ground.
SmokeMonkey
11 years ago
^+1 but I have a decent rotation of $3 and under (CBid prices) that I've been pretty pleased with. Haven't gone the seconds route but have considered it.
tamapatom
11 years ago

^+1 but I have a decent rotation of $3 and under (CBid prices) that I've been pretty pleased with. Haven't gone the seconds route but have considered it.

SmokeMonkey wrote:


I have collected some good $3 cigars as well and there are some great seconds out there (assuming you like the non-second version).......but I am tainted by my recent consumption of a $6 Fuente 8-5-8 sungrown where I said to myself - Whoa. I need more of these! So suddenly I have enough $3 sticks to last me a while.
SmokeMonkey
11 years ago
Same thing here with a couple of finds. Still have an 858 I haven't tried thst Conan sent me. Looking forward to it.
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