DrafterX
Friday, April 14, 2017 9:37:03 PM
There are some documented cases where people have voted more than once.. sometimes for family members and thi think it's cool.. but the intent of the post was how bias the media is telling the story... children who don't know any better see these kind of reports have only one conclusion. .. and people who already hate Trump have fuel...

He flipped on China cause they quit manipulating the currency and have agreed to assist with NK... but they didn't mention that. . Just like everything else in the report. .. they didn't mention why he changed his mind.... 😟

SmokeMonkey
Friday, April 14, 2017 10:33:08 PM
Meh. People hated Obama no matter what as well. It's our new political environment.

From a policy perspective, I'm largely neutral on the president at this point. Still hoping for the best, regardless. I do wish someone would lock him out of twitter, though.

Burner02
Friday, April 14, 2017 10:38:47 PM

Keep in mind that here in Alabama they tried a couple of years ago to shut down license offices in several majority black counties, meaning in some cases people would need to travel across two counties to get a new state-issued ID. While there were a few ways with limited availability to get a voter-only ID, it did seem to put an undue burden on citizens. Whether we like

It or not, these things happen.

The funny thing is, as red as this state is, I don't think it would impact election results, at least at the state and national level.

SmokeMonkey wrote:

Damn Smoke, if I didn't know better I would think you are speaking poorly of you adopted state. What you said above is true but you left out a few key facts. Initially this had nothing to do about voter ID as you would have others to believe.

The closure of the driver's license offices were a result of a battle between the former Gov Bentley and the State Legislator over his proposal to raise taxes to deal with a budget shortfall.

"Citing budget concerns, the state shuttered 31 part-time offices where examiners gave driving tests about once per week. The state said the closures were aimed at the offices that issued the fewest licenses each year, but the closures also came down hard on rural and heavily minority communities. It left more than a third of Alabama's 67 counties without a license office, including eight of the state's 11 counties with a majority African-American population."

"The rural offices, before they were closed, issued anywhere from a few dozen to a few hundred licenses each year. The 31 locations in 2014 collectively issued 5,000 learners permits and 3,149 driver's licenses, and gave 10,587 permit exams, according to numbers from the Alabama Law Enforcement Agency."

Not really something to whip the left into a frenzy over.

SmokeMonkey
Friday, April 14, 2017 11:02:01 PM
Honestly, I really like Alabama but it has its faults just like anywhere. I fully understand the claim as to why those were chosen and obviously did a poor job framing it above, but find it rather difficult to believe that it just didn't occur to anyone that it might be a poor idea. I think we both agree that this state could be run better (and worse).

Not really a frenzy, more a sigh and head shake.

On a side note, we should really get with Eric and put together a Bama herf at some point. I'm sure there are others around, as well.

SmokeMonkey
Friday, April 14, 2017 11:03:08 PM
And not Bama as in the tide (being sensative to both sides).
DrafterX
Friday, April 14, 2017 11:34:32 PM
I wanna go... 😟
SmokeMonkey
Saturday, April 15, 2017 12:01:21 AM
Drafter you should definitely come. And bring Goldilocks.
frankj1
Saturday, April 15, 2017 12:10:45 AM

I wanna go... 😟

DrafterX wrote:

never gonna happen, but I'd love to attend too.

TMCTLT
Saturday, April 15, 2017 7:51:00 AM

I haven't argued against an ID requirement, and I hope that's not what you read into my post. I'm actually fine with that. But you have to provide relatively easy access to get said ID. In some of the poorest counties in the county, a 100 mile round trip for a drivers license is not access. And when the state GOP passed the "budget cuts" largely targeting these areas, at best it looks suspect.

Tail, accept the fact that your party does things specifically to harm the other's chances and quit defending the indefensible. I recognize the left does the same thing, and I don't like one bit. I may not get on a cigar forum to bitch about it, but I damn sure won't get on one to defend it.

SmokeMonkey wrote:

Seems to me if countless Illegals from S of our border can make the trek across their country...enter ours and travel hundreds if not thousands of miles to their destination....AND end up with a picture ID drivers license, so can these " poor poor people " you put forth as an example of unfair voting practices....

Burner02
Saturday, April 15, 2017 9:17:57 AM

Honestly, I really like Alabama but it has its faults just like anywhere. I fully understand the claim as to why those were chosen and obviously did a poor job framing it above, but find it rather difficult to believe that it just didn't occur to anyone that it might be a poor idea. I think we both agree that this state could be run better (and worse).

Not really a frenzy, more a sigh and head shake.

On a side note, we should really get with Eric and put together a Bama herf at some point. I'm sure there are others around, as well.

SmokeMonkey wrote:

Will have to admit the former Gov Bentley was involved.

A Bama herf sounds like a great idea and maybe we can make it happen in the near future.

Abrignac
Saturday, April 15, 2017 10:21:48 AM

Will have to admit the former Gov Bentley was involved.

A Bama herf sounds like a great idea and maybe we can make it happen in the near future.

Burner02 wrote:

I could probably ease that way for a herf.

Buckwheat
Saturday, April 15, 2017 11:56:29 AM

Why Dems hate Trump so much.... Just watched some CBS News.. Made Trump look like this huge flip-flopper without even a hint of explanation on about half a dozen topics or more... then they go into the Texas voter ID law and say Iit was created to keep blacks from voting.. no pproof of course but that didn't stop them from saying it a dozen times... talk about brainwashing.. 🤦 .

DrafterX wrote:

So the news has to backup what they say but the administration doesn't? Alt facts, large scale voter fraud, etc... 🐴

DrafterX
Saturday, April 15, 2017 12:08:14 PM
The intent was to deceive. ..much like Obama & Hillary.. or Hillbama for short.. 😟
Buckwheat
Saturday, April 15, 2017 1:37:34 PM

The intent was to deceive. ..much like Obama & Hillary.. or Hillbama for short.. 😟

DrafterX wrote:

I agree with you that Trump's lies are intended to deceive much like other politicians. 🐴

delta1
Saturday, April 15, 2017 1:52:20 PM
Are liberals the only ones capable of voter fraud? Seems so, as the GOP uses that as an excuse to put up barriers to voting...
frankj1
Saturday, April 15, 2017 4:04:45 PM

Are liberals the only ones capable of voter fraud? Seems so, as the GOP uses that as an excuse to put up barriers to voting...

delta1 wrote:

I seem to recall the one lady caught voting twice voted for trump both times...

tailgater
Saturday, April 15, 2017 5:05:03 PM

I seem to recall the one lady caught voting twice voted for trump both times...

frankj1 wrote:

See what you get for letting women vote?

SmokeMonkey
Saturday, April 15, 2017 5:20:46 PM
Lol!
SmokeMonkey
Saturday, April 15, 2017 5:42:13 PM

A Bama herf sounds like a great idea and maybe we can make it happen in the near future.

Burner02 wrote:

I'll pm Eric over the next few days. He's been scarce here, so likely very busy. Then we'll see what we can do.

Burner02
Saturday, April 15, 2017 6:47:48 PM
Appears bad news coming out of Lake Tuscaloosa according to AL.com.
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