delta1
8 years ago
You don't need to try so hard with the old Americans...the world's sport is football...by 2026, when the Cup returns, most American sports fans will understand the game, but may not necessarily root for the USMNT, even though they'll be in...

hope I'm still around so I can go see a game or two...
tailgater
8 years ago

You don't need to try so hard with the old Americans...the world's sport is football...by 2026, when the Cup returns, most American sports fans will understand the game, but may not necessarily root for the USMNT, even though they'll be in...

hope I'm still around so I can go see a game or two...

delta1 wrote:



If we took a consensus today and soccer was the most popular, I wouldn't like it any better.
So who really cares?

I am still amazed at how needy soccer fans are.
"understand it".
LOL!
C'mon man.
I know that goes sideways up the azz of soccer fans, and that's not my intent here. But soccer fans are the only fans who insist it's YOUR fault if you don't enjoy watching the game.



delta1
8 years ago
yep, soccer fans shouldn't care who likes or don't like the game...and shouldn't try to convert those who don't. Nor should people who don't like the game bag on those who do...even my son's friends who hated baseball, didn't gripe at me for insisting on watching baseball when they came over...

almost the same dynamic as religious zealots trying to convert non-believers who openly question and ridicule their beliefs...

or Patriot fans who chafe at any criticism of the exalted Belichick and Brady...
rfenst
8 years ago

...almost the same dynamic as religious zealots trying to convert non-believers who openly question and ridicule their beliefs...

or Patriot fans who chafe at any criticism of the exalted Belichick and Brady...

delta1 wrote:



Touche'!
Mattie B
8 years ago
Delta

Poor analogy but I see what you were trying to do.


Those religious zealots, as you call them, are trying to save you from an eternity in Hell. That carries a bit more weight than, “I want you to like what I like”.


But,
No harm, no foul. Just a poor example
teedubbya
8 years ago
Only because they beleive that while a non believer does not.

That’s the point. The believer (god, soccer, baseball) always believes they are right and know more. The non believer (god, soccer, baseball) often doesn’t think the believer knows more and sometimes think they know more than the believer.

Just because you and I beleive in god and beleive it has greater implication than any sport doesn’t make it true or even more important. If we are wrong there is zero importance there.

You are letting your beliefs convince you what you feel strongly about is more important and using that to justify the age old need to preach and convert. Non beleivers see this as annoying and exactly as he same thing. They are not wrong.

And you suck butt.
teedubbya
8 years ago
My friend watched game of thrones. I have not.

I did see a few minutes of the show and I explained to him all about how Ned Stark always wins and will be king for a long to me. He told me I don’t know what I’m talking about.

He is so needy. Why is it GOT fans always tell non fans they don’t know what they are talking about and just don’t understand the show?

You don’t need to actually watch it to understand it as well as those that do. Telling someone who doesn’t watch it that they don’t understand it as well as those that do is crazy.
KingoftheCove
8 years ago

My friend watched game of thrones. I have not.

I did see a few minutes of the show and I explained to him all about how Ned Stark always wins and will be king for a long to me. He told me I don’t know what I’m talking about.

He is so needy. Why is it GOT fans always tell non fans they don’t know what they are talking about and just don’t understand the show?

You don’t need to actually watch it to understand it as well as those that do. Telling someone who doesn’t watch it that they don’t understand it as well as those that do is crazy.

teedubbya wrote:


"You don't get da show!"

Papi Le Batard
delta1
8 years ago

Delta

Poor analogy but I see what you were trying to do.


Those religious zealots, as you call them, are trying to save you from an eternity in Hell. That carries a bit more weight than, “I want you to like what I like”.


But,
No harm, no foul. Just a poor example

Mattie B wrote:



I understand your point, Mattie...I hope I didn't offend you...I would never ridicule anybody's religious beliefs...

A few years ago, I watched as a co-worker constantly tried to convert a fellow co-worker, they started out as pretty good friends...they got into several heated discussions, with the non-believer using hurtful examples to question the foundations of the other's beliefs...after a couple of years, they hardly spoke or acknowledged one another...
Mattie B
8 years ago
Not offended at all Delta.


TW however I find very offensive.



Anyway.....

Soccer. Yes. Love it!
DrafterX
8 years ago
Poor Hodor... 😞
teedubbya
8 years ago
Screw hodor

Hodor
DrafterX
rfenst
8 years ago
I am going through withdrawal symptoms. Watching the lousy Orlando City won't do it for me.
tailgater
8 years ago

yep, soccer fans shouldn't care who likes or don't like the game...and shouldn't try to convert those who don't. Nor should people who don't like the game bag on those who do...even my son's friends who hated baseball, didn't gripe at me for insisting on watching baseball when they came over...

almost the same dynamic as religious zealots trying to convert non-believers who openly question and ridicule their beliefs...

or Patriot fans who chafe at any criticism of the exalted Belichick and Brady...

delta1 wrote:



Whoa man!
tailgater
8 years ago

My friend watched game of thrones. I have not.

I did see a few minutes of the show and I explained to him all about how Ned Stark always wins and will be king for a long to me. He told me I don’t know what I’m talking about.

He is so needy. Why is it GOT fans always tell non fans they don’t know what they are talking about and just don’t understand the show?

You don’t need to actually watch it to understand it as well as those that do. Telling someone who doesn’t watch it that they don’t understand it as well as those that do is crazy.

teedubbya wrote:



Such a poor analogy I'm not even sure it is one.

I said something negative about soccer.
You assumed I don't understand it.

Never mind that I did some coaching and watched my boy play until he graduated this year.
I obviously don't understand it because I don't like world cup flopping.
Truly a needy attempt to prove a point. I just hope you remove your hat so we can find it...






teedubbya
8 years ago

Such a poor analogy I'm not even sure it is one.

I said something negative about soccer.
You assumed I don't understand it.

Never mind that I did some coaching and watched my boy play until he graduated this year.
I obviously don't understand it because I don't like world cup flopping.
Truly a needy attempt to prove a point. I just hope you remove your hat so we can find it...

tailgater wrote:




Dude you are losing it

FIFA
More like FAFA: Faking and flopping always.

tailgater wrote:



My guess is you have not been watching. This has been a great world cup.

I think they are starting to gain control over the flopping. I was hoping the VAR would result in more yellows when it happens but it seems as if the Refs are doing a better job of not calling the penalty and the VAR at times works in reverse.... if that makes sense....

Flopping hasn't been much of an issue and I love the world making fun of Niedermeyer (intentional spelling)

Go croatia.

teedubbya wrote:



Brazil's Neymar thanks you for the support.


Any sport that would allow such obvious flopping without enforcing any rules to prevent it should not be taken serious.

In the NHL some players started flopping, so they created the Embellishment penalty. And they enforce it, even though it's clearly a judgement call.
The NBA is doing the same thing. And it works.

This has been going on in soccer for decades, if not longer.
At the World Cup level.
And still no rules. Otherwise Neymar would have been sitting long before his team fell out of the tournament.


tailgater wrote:



If you say so. You obviously have not been watching and did not grasp what I was saying. And I purposely misspelled Neymar who is the poster boy for the issue. he was largely mocked and his flops largely neutralized.

You don't have to like the sport, but its obvious you are not following it and your thoughts are a bit dated. The flopping issue is not totally resolved but they have made great strides without being draconian. There are rules and VAR.

I like what they have done, and if you had watched this world cup (which I'd guess you have no interest and even less knowledge about) you'd see flopping really has not been a huge issue..... neymar and what the mainstream media is telling you to think aside. its still there but not as you describe. I think you are out of your knowledge zone.

teedubbya wrote:




You pivot to soccer fans (post 146) are needy and got all butt hurt about the fact you hadn't followed the world cup so didn't know the state of flopping in the sport and turned that in to you thought I was saying you didn't understand the sport.... I responded that was a straw man but you don't understand what is happening in the sport for lack of watching.... Coaching your son is great.... it has nothing to do with flopping in FIFA and what they have done. I never said you didn't understand the sport but you seem to keep wanting to argue with something I never said rather than what I said.


Hey its been fun but you really are losing it. It's like you quit trying to be coherent or logical and will just proclaim you are right no matter what. Must be your TDS.
delta1
8 years ago
Trump Delusion Syndrome, rampant and widespread....approaching epidemic levels...
DrafterX
8 years ago
Yep, all the treason and impeachment calls with no crimes is getting pretty silly... 😟
tailgater
8 years ago

Dude you are losing it


You pivot to soccer fans (post 146) are needy and got all butt hurt about the fact you hadn't followed the world cup so didn't know the state of flopping in the sport and turned that in to you thought I was saying you didn't understand the sport.... I responded that was a straw man but you don't understand what is happening in the sport for lack of watching.... Coaching your son is great.... it has nothing to do with flopping in FIFA and what they have done. I never said you didn't understand the sport but you seem to keep wanting to argue with something I never said rather than what I said.


Hey its been fun but you really are losing it. It's like you quit trying to be coherent or logical and will just proclaim you are right no matter what. Must be your TDS.

teedubbya wrote:



It's pure awesomeness how needy you are when it comes to someone not liking soccer to the level you demand.

Take the flopping out and make it a real sport.
Not difficult.
And even though it might be getting "better", that's just a relative term. There is still outlandish flopping that goes unpunished.
That's not opinion, and you know it.

Truth be told, even without the flopping I wouldn't be a huge fan. I just pointed out the flopping with a made up acronym that obviously offended you. So, mission accomplished.

It needs to be stated again: Soccer fans (in America) are extremely needy as as a whole.

Look at all the NFL threads.
Virtually every one of them have comments like "I don't watch the NFL anymore because of blah blah reason".
And I don't recall any of the NFL fans countering with "you just don't understand it".

It's not even debatable. Soccer fans are needy. It's been like that for decades.

We're not even talking about the sport anymore. Just the fan's inability to be in the room with somebody who doesn't love it.

I like soccer when I have a horse in the race. I didn't care who won this one. France? Croatia? whatever.
Gambling can cure things like that.
Maybe I should have wagered on the over/under for number of flops.

(before you have an aneurysm, I know there were none)
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