IronResin
7 years ago

Did you check out my humidor?

http://www.cigarbid.com/Forum/c/posts/657942/My-Humidor 

lance4824 wrote:



Bad ass! The first link was broken. Thanks for sharing!
lance4824
7 years ago

Bad ass! The first link was broken. Thanks for sharing!

IronResin wrote:



Sorry it was a mobile link.

Thanks
Thunder.Gerbil
7 years ago


As for the Ligas, I've heard many rumors from many different people that some special additives or processes or SOME form of weirdness is done to them, and that it causes them to behave differently from "normal" cigars when it comes to things like aging (and some other stuff like tending to produce abnormally large amounts of smoke including resting smoke). But no proof, so who knows.
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Pudding Mittens wrote:



A cigar shop proprietor told me it was a glycerin based substance. At the time he said it was on all Drew Estate's cigars except Herrera Esteli.

I've found no other source for the information though. I looked at some point, but didn't find any information to confirm it.

bgz wrote:



Interesting. If true, one wonders if the stuff evaporates after X amount of time, causing the cigar to lose some of its flavors and thus "get worse with age".

Of course, this is pure speculation and hypothetical. I've never seen any hard evidence of any additives, just lots of rumors.
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Pudding Mittens wrote:




The shop owner might be speaking of a bethune. A lot of manufactures use them, but few talk of them. Typically it's just something like watered down rum with possibly some extra spices soaked it. Glycerol is mostly used on the machine made mass produced stuff, like Backwoods, Garcia y Vega, Dutch Masters etc... to keep them most when sitting out on the shelves of non-cigar retailers.

When I visited the DE factory many years ago, what I saw with their cigars was that they use a different bunching method, four folds rather than three, it adds an extra air passage which means a more open draw and part of the reason they smoke like chimneys. The cigars, especially the higher end ones like the LP line were quickly wiped down with a towel, not unlike every other factory I saw did, but this was just really to smooth out the wrapper and remove any small flakes of tobacco left from the rolling process. I do not recall if they had bottles of bethune mixed up or not.
Whistlebritches
7 years ago
delta1 wrote:
+1...seems it's a common myth that most cigars will get better with age....................no...they...don't...

Pudding Mittens wrote:
Correct, some don't improve with age.

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some will, though, and id'ing them is part of the fun.

Pudding Mittens wrote:
Agree!

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the other side of the coin is that some great cigars will get worse with age,

Pudding Mittens wrote:
This is where I disagree.

I've been doing the cigar thing for a very long time and my collection is crazy big. I can't recall ever having a cigar get worse with age. As I said in another post, with age generally strength decreases and complexity/richness of flavor increases. If you define "quality" as only "strength", then yes they lose "quality". But if you define "quality" more broadly, as I believe you should, then they never lose quality.

They may not improve at all, or they may improve at varying rates, typically with diminishing returns leading to no further improvements after a while (usually a long while).

But I can't recall ever saying to myself, "man, this stick is over the hill and lost its quality". The most I'd say is, "this stick isn't as strong as it used to be" but usually in that case, the other components of flavor have gotten better.

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... and you'll regret saving them, instead of smokin em...

Pudding Mittens wrote:
I've never regretted aging a cigar, even when they're 15-20 years old.



Pudding Mittens on this ......we are absolutely on the same page.
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DrMaddVibe
7 years ago
Collecting?


I'm setting them all up for a controlled burn!


Potato - Potatoe
IronResin
7 years ago

Collecting?


I'm setting them all up for a controlled burn!


Potato - Potatoe

DrMaddVibe wrote:




Cigar collecting by proxy.... :-" :-" :-"
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