He literally starts his data in 1855.... He is using Greenland temp as a proxy for the entire globe.

If you don't think that's a good reason to be skeptical of his claim maybe you need to consider why you're so skeptical of the other scientists.

And... Most significant (and hinted at by ded)... If we are seeing a spike in temperature over the past few hundred years due to our impact... Does it matter that we haven't gotten it to rise over the temperature it was 5000 years ago?

Do I need to make a video? If temp was changing by a couple of degrees over a thousand years... And now we're making that same change over 100years... It doesn't matter if we haven't beat that temp yet. We will pretty quickly.

It's from the FAQ!

So... That's really dumb... On everyone's part.

The FAQ for the bill (not a congressional document, just a random page on document cloud... So no guarantee it's from her people) states "economic security for all who are unable or unwilling to work".

The bill itself doesn't really provide for that....

So we have journalists who aren't looking past an uncontrolled FAQ to look at the actual bill... And we have politicians theoretically promising something while proposing a bill that doesn't really cover it (no real surprise there j suppose).[/quote]

I just figured this out myself. She had a fact sheet posted on her site yesterday that contained the "unwilling to work" phrase. This is where I had read it. After receiving harsh criticism, the fact sheet was removed from her web site, so it wasn't there today when you went to read the bill. More then likely the FAQ you found was based on the removed fact sheet.

David

If the best options are renewables and/or cost effective, then I'm all in favor. I thought I was clear on that.

I'm against a mandate that eliminates any option that includes fossil fuels.

Don't disagree because I wrote it.

AOC isn't looking to help the earth. She's looking to pad her pockets. Big government.

AOC isn't looking to help the earth. She's looking to pad her pockets.

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Ya, And Hitler was just trying to organize power...

If aoc was just looking to get rich she wouldn't be any more dangerous than any other politician....

Not a very good one anyway...#-o

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What makes you believe she's looking to pad her pockets? I thought she had already publicly slammed the best ways to get rich in government...corporate donations...lobbying...stock manipulation...etc.

I laughed.

I think that's Elizabeth Warren's campaign slogan.

If aoc was just looking to get rich she wouldn't be any more dangerous than any other politician.... [/quote]

I said pad her pockets. I then defined it as big government.

Then you conclude that I suggest she's "just looking to get rich".

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Then you conclude that I suggest she's "just looking to get rich".

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