victor809
7 years ago
MACS... How have I not refuted it?

He literally starts his data in 1855.... He is using Greenland temp as a proxy for the entire globe.

If you don't think that's a good reason to be skeptical of his claim maybe you need to consider why you're so skeptical of the other scientists.

And... Most significant (and hinted at by ded)... If we are seeing a spike in temperature over the past few hundred years due to our impact... Does it matter that we haven't gotten it to rise over the temperature it was 5000 years ago?

Do I need to make a video? If temp was changing by a couple of degrees over a thousand years... And now we're making that same change over 100years... It doesn't matter if we haven't beat that temp yet. We will pretty quickly.
Mrs. dpnewell
7 years ago

Ah... I found it!
It's from the FAQ!

So... That's really dumb... On everyone's part.
The FAQ for the bill (not a congressional document, just a random page on document cloud... So no guarantee it's from her people) states "economic security for all who are unable or unwilling to work".

The bill itself doesn't really provide for that....

So we have journalists who aren't looking past an uncontrolled FAQ to look at the actual bill... And we have politicians theoretically promising something while proposing a bill that doesn't really cover it (no real surprise there j suppose).

victor809 wrote:



I just figured this out myself. She had a fact sheet posted on her site yesterday that contained the "unwilling to work" phrase. This is where I had read it. After receiving harsh criticism, the fact sheet was removed from her web site, so it wasn't there today when you went to read the bill. More then likely the FAQ you found was based on the removed fact sheet.

David
victor809
7 years ago
Yep... I think you're right.
DrafterX
7 years ago
Buying votes... 😟
ZRX1200
7 years ago
It’s what they do, power at any cost. Gotta get that end game baby!
tailgater
7 years ago
Victor and spey,
If the best options are renewables and/or cost effective, then I'm all in favor. I thought I was clear on that.
I'm against a mandate that eliminates any option that includes fossil fuels.
Don't disagree because I wrote it.
AOC isn't looking to help the earth. She's looking to pad her pockets. Big government.
opelmanta1900
7 years ago


AOC isn't looking to help the earth. She's looking to pad her pockets.

tailgater wrote:


Ya, And Hitler was just trying to organize power...

If aoc was just looking to get rich she wouldn't be any more dangerous than any other politician....
DrafterX
7 years ago
Hitler only had one ball... or so I heard... 😟
opelmanta1900
7 years ago
So, not a juggler then?
opelmanta1900
7 years ago
🀐 I'm still mad nobody laughed at my lumberjack joke...
RMAN4443
7 years ago

So, not a juggler then?

opelmanta1900 wrote:


Not a very good one anyway...#-o
DrafterX
7 years ago
opie's a lumberjack and he's ok...:-"
Phil222
7 years ago

AOC isn't looking to help the earth. She's looking to pad her pockets. Big government.

tailgater wrote:


What makes you believe she's looking to pad her pockets? I thought she had already publicly slammed the best ways to get rich in government...corporate donations...lobbying...stock manipulation...etc.
Phil222
7 years ago

[-( I'm still mad nobody laughed at my lumberjack joke...

opelmanta1900 wrote:


I laughed.
tailgater
7 years ago

...an un-informed electorate is an easily led one...

delta1 wrote:



I think that's Elizabeth Warren's campaign slogan.

delta1
7 years ago
what does a gay guy call a rainbow flag?
delta1
7 years ago
tailgater
7 years ago

Ya, And Hitler was just trying to organize power...

If aoc was just looking to get rich she wouldn't be any more dangerous than any other politician....

opelmanta1900 wrote:



I said pad her pockets. I then defined it as big government.
Then you conclude that I suggest she's "just looking to get rich".

Forum posts can be misleading, but please read through to the end prior to
opelmanta1900
7 years ago
opelmanta1900
7 years ago

I said pad her pockets. I then defined it as big government.
Then you conclude that I suggest she's "just looking to get rich".

Forum posts can be misleading, but please read through to the end prior to

tailgater wrote:


[-( No...
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