delta1
7 years ago
must resist.....must resist....storage is full and I passed my annual cigar budget limit a few weeks ago......must resist.........must resist............must resist...
Sunoverbeach
7 years ago
^^^ agreed. I really need to stop looking at this thread
KingoftheCove
7 years ago

must resist.....must resist....storage is full and I passed my annual cigar budget limit a few weeks ago......must resist.........must resist............must resist...

delta1 wrote:


Ya.........me too!
Must resist!




#-o

Just ordered the Nocturnal Beast.............simply too good of a deal, considering I have yet to try the Monticello or Melanio.......under $3.50/ea.......delivered.......I crumbled under the pressure of the deal...
midmofan
Mrs. dpnewell
7 years ago

Ya.........me too!
Must resist!




#-o

Just ordered the Nocturnal Beast.............simply too good of a deal, considering I have yet to try the Monticello or Melanio.......under $3.50/ea.......delivered.......I crumbled under the pressure of the deal...

KingoftheCove wrote:



Yes, that Nocturnal Beast is calling my name also. Plus the Old Henry sampler. One of the most underrated "Pepin" cigars.

David
tamapatom
7 years ago
You definitely need to pick up some Melanios.......consider it an "investment". My wife has a hard time understanding how a great deal on cigars is an investment when you end up torching your investment. But if you end up smoking a cigar that you picked up at $3.50 and the going price at the time of consumption is let's say $5.00 in three years, that' s a 19.5% return on investment - right before you torch it to zero value. But remember you are only torching the original investment! So your loss is 34.5% not a 100%. Not a bad deal, huh?

If you wait till the cigar is worth twice what you paid for it, in lets say 4 years, your return on investment is 18.9% right before you burn it. but then after its gone your ROI drops to 0% or break even. The increased value is offset by initial purchase price. If you had not made the initial purchase at $3.50, you would be instead paying $7.00 at the time of consumption. You end up not spending $3.50 that you already spent. That $3.50 that you save reimburses you for the $3.50 you already spent. So essentially you are smoking cigars FOR FREE!!!!

Warning: This does not take into account the time value of money. Let's look a little closer. Compounded interest on $3.50 not spent on a cigar will result in a return of $1.09 at 7%. This will be harder to recoup in the end, though you are still grossing an 18.9% ROI up until the time of consumption. Under this scenario, your cigar would need to increase in value by 2.6 times, in order to achieve your free cigar. Given the FDA regulations, anti-tobacco programs for minimum pricing and consolidation of the industry, it is not outside the realm of possibilities that the $3.50 cigar will be $9.18 in four years - your break even point. On the other hand, if you are not able to invest at 7%, or end up stuffing your money in a mattress, or spending it or losing it on a bad investment, then your cigar investment looks much better in a shorter time span.

If you die before you smoke all your cigars, there is a perceived loss in investment as the cycle of appreciation is broken. However, if you calculate the difference between your age of death and the accuarial tables say a person of your age is expected to live beyond, then you save the money that you would have spent on cigars while you would have been alive. For example, lets say you die at 80, according to statistical probability an 80 year old's life expectancy is considered 8.34 years. So if you spend $500 per year on cigars - that is money that is no longer being spent. $500 per year compounded at 7% results in a value of $6761. If we calculate a discount rate to determine present value of that amount and we get about $5000. This is what cessation of your cigar hobby is potentially worth to your heirs. Remember, while you were alive you were smoking free cigars! Then the question arises regarding your remaining stash. Have them donated to a good cause and take the tax write-off. You can deduct the fair market value, which as we have discussed has appreciated substantially. At a market value of $10,000, a dollar tax benefit for say the lowest taxable rate would be $1000. If you averaged a 200% appreciation on your stash, the real cost to you was $5000. So the $5,000 you don't spend because you are dead combined with the taxable write-off value of $1000 equals $6,000. The cash out value to your collection results in a net profit of $1000. Your could also choose to will your cigars to family and friends and forego the tax write-off (depending on age you may not need it anyway). In this scenario, your hobby has a break even consequence on your families finances.

Moral of the story: Invest in cigars at great deals and then smoke free for life!
KingoftheCove
7 years ago

You definitely need to pick up some Melanios.......snipped for pasting.......In this scenario, your hobby has a break even consequence on your families finances.

Moral of the story: Invest in cigars at great deals and then smoke free for life!

tamapatom wrote:


=d>
This is the kind of analysis that's gonna give Puddin a bonerrrr....

Sunoverbeach
7 years ago
Holy chit! My brain just exploded
KingoftheCove
7 years ago

Yes, that Nocturnal Beast is calling my name also. Plus the Old Henry sampler. One of the most underrated "Pepin" cigars.

David

Mrs. dpnewell wrote:


I finally pulled the trigger on one of those when the sale with free shipping was on last time.
I was impatient, and smoked the Pure Breed after only 8 days rest.
Perfect burn, perfect draw, beautiful cigar............tobacco not fully fermented......wot da!!!

Got the dreaded ammonia odor off the head almost immediately upon lighting the cigar. Flavors were also a bit "green"......I can tell these will be solid in 6-12 months, and maybe the other 3 blends are ready to go now.
But I'm not touching another one out of that sampler until Thanksgiving.

I posted a review on the MB3 website..........several days ago...........it's still under "review"......heh heh.
My 5 star reviews were put up in less than 24 hours, but my 3 star of that Pure Breed Churchill review is now going on 5 days old..........:-k

I expected better from da MB3 place....
KingoftheCove
7 years ago
First time I've ever got ammonia off a DPG cigar btw...
Mrs. dpnewell
7 years ago
I personally prefer the original over the pure breed.

David
IronResin
7 years ago

Same place, just snagged 2 boxes of skinny monsters (cazadores) for $67 each... With free shipping that's about as cheap as I've seen them this year...

opelmanta1900 wrote:




How are these vitolas? Which one rocked or did you like best?
opelmanta1900
7 years ago
Mummy Cazadores... Prefer the cazadores on almost all of them...
opelmanta1900
7 years ago
12 honest men for cheap...

Also, good deals on AJ stuff with a free lighter...

Anyone had the 6x46 last call? What's better, regular or maduro?
IronResin
7 years ago

Mummy Cazadores... Prefer the cazadores on almost all of them...

opelmanta1900 wrote:



Gonna try to snag a couple. Thanks! 🇨🇮
opelmanta1900
7 years ago
I'll send you a pm.. There's a sampler up for auction right now....
IronResin
7 years ago

I'll send you a pm.. There's a sampler up for auction right now....

opelmanta1900 wrote:



Thanks Opel!!!
opelmanta1900
7 years ago
No worries.... Enjoy!
midmofan
7 years ago
Both the original OMB3 deal (at $3 per including shipping) and the Oliva Nocturnal Deal ($3.49 per w/shipping) are back up today.

Grabbed a Nocturnal last time and I think its the better deal for Oliva fans.

And once again these deals and the Room 101's over there keeping me from pulling the trigger on bids around this place. Everything I would normally grab over here, seems to be going for around $3.50-$4.00 a cigar when you include shipping and I keep thinking what I can pick up over there for the same amount.

EDIT: BTW, it seems the Monticello in the Nocturnal sampler is an exclusive blend for that site, a fancy "house blend" made by Oliva. No doubt that's where much of the profit on this bundle comes in, but it was a darn good, if not overly complex, smoke ROTT. Of the 4 blends in the sampler I would rate it the 4th best. The fact that it was mostly one note was more noticeable given that its the Churchill and burned good long time.

For me, this pretty much balances out the torpedo in the OMB3 deal that I find always seems to have build issues, making it my least favorite of the OMB3 deal

Going to let the other Monticellos rest a while and see what they are like later.
mikey8991
7 years ago
Please pm where the chief cool sale is
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