frankj1
7 years ago

Also one of the women that are accusing trump of rape was 13 at the time. The place? Epstein’s place and party

teedubbya wrote:


a short while ago there were released quotes (the day he said he didn't know Epstein) attributed to Trump from a few years ago in which he said what all of Washington, New York, and Hollywood seemed to know...that Epstein had the women, especially very young women.

true? maybe. not true? maybe.
anyone who has kept tabs on the Lifestyles of The Rich, Famous, and Depraved the last few decades surprised to hear who socialized in these circles?

for me, this mattered at the time of the last election, not now, but perhaps the Morality Team will back off their united support simply because of his (not) heartfelt vote pandering support of Pro Life for the next election.

There's a lot more involved to living with morals.

teedubbya
7 years ago
I’m giving a thumbs up but it’s for the orphans not you.

By the way the conversation is on tape and not alleged.

It’s no wonder the government disappeared Epstein. Trump must have replaced his jailed fixer with Barr. Definite upgrade.
delta1
7 years ago
I don't really care who was motivated to do what here...seems the decedent was in the best position to accomplish his objective...

MACS is a professional detention facility supervisor, and he says stuff happens, can't expect humans to keep watching 24/7 without turning away ...

" My team has about 65% good, responsible people. The other 35% can kiss my ass." - MACS on his crew...so one out of three corrections officers are sub-par...and that's in a relatively well-run operation...

reports are that the prison staff at Epstein's facility were undermanned and working prolonged and mandatory overtime...think any of those guys were cutting corners? .....

whose fault? Top prison administrators...
teedubbya
7 years ago
I heard Epstein arranged the Moscow showers.
victor809
7 years ago

I heard Epstein arranged the Moscow showers.

teedubbya wrote:



Putin killed epstein?

(another layer to the ridiculous nonsense around the conspiracy theories.... trumpenfurher is literally friends with people who have been credibly accused having people killed.... )
8trackdisco
7 years ago
People generally want what they can't have. Bigger cars, boats, houses. Billionaires get bored, they've got all the big stuff. It's probably a one off situation. It isn't like women are being sexually trafficked from China to perform sex acts on owners of NFL teams.

Lonely Kraft Singles lead to exploited vaChinas.
frankj1
7 years ago
MACS
7 years ago
Al... you are absolutely correct. Our former sheriff allowed our staffing levels to get dangerously low. Why? To prove a point to the board of supervisors?

That's why the new sheriff, who was one of the former sheriff's lieutenants, got elected. We're hiring. We're slowly trying to build our staffing back up. It's going to take time... and in the meantime, I have guys working 3-4 days of overtime every pay period. The ones who don't volunteer get voluntold for at least a day, sometimes 2.

We are on mandatory "yellow days". Forced overtime. Sergeants are not mandated, but most of us do a day or two just to help out. Staffing is so low it's been authorized.

On Sunday I should have 32 people. 35 from 8am-2pm when we're doing clothing exchange. I had 26 until 8am when I had 29... and forced one of them to stay until the end of our shift, so I was at 27. 5 under critical.

That's not a lawsuit waiting to happen at all.
frankj1
7 years ago

Al... you are absolutely correct. Our former sheriff allowed our staffing levels to get dangerously low. Why? To prove a point to the board of supervisors?

That's why the new sheriff, who was one of the former sheriff's lieutenants, got elected. We're hiring. We're slowly trying to build our staffing back up. It's going to take time... and in the meantime, I have guys working 3-4 days of overtime every pay period. The ones who don't volunteer get voluntold for at least a day, sometimes 2.

We are on mandatory "yellow days". Forced overtime. Sergeants are not mandated, but most of us do a day or two just to help out. Staffing is so low it's been authorized.

On Sunday I should have 32 people. 35 from 8am-2pm when we're doing clothing exchange. I had 26 until 8am when I had 29... and forced one of them to stay until the end of our shift, so I was at 27. 5 under critical.

That's not a lawsuit waiting to happen at all.

MACS wrote:


you know more than anyone else I know about this.

serious question...how much could we alleviate this problem by releasing or at least reducing sentences for street level mj crime?
8trackdisco
7 years ago

you know more than anyone else I know about this.

serious question...how much could we alleviate this problem by releasing or at least reducing sentences for street level mj crime?

frankj1 wrote:



Or, executing people on death row, and move these people in jail into the empty cells.
MACS
7 years ago

you know more than anyone else I know about this.

serious question...how much could we alleviate this problem by releasing or at least reducing sentences for street level mj crime?

frankj1 wrote:



Leniency is not the answer. CA has already reduced drug possession to a citation. Read a little about AB-109, Prop 47, and Prop 57. We're letting criminals get away with crime. Property crimes have increased a lot, and homelessness has, too.

Why? Because the guys we're letting out are such losers that even their own families are sick of their sh*t.

Some guy steals your car... gets sentenced to 3 years... he'll be out in a week with no probation or parole. Just like he served his whole term. Zero consequences.

In criminal justice class we learned that in order for a punishment to be effective, it must be 1. Certain 2. Swift and 3. Severe. Our justice system is NONE of those things, which is why criminals don't give 2 craps about following the law... BUT in jail they follow the jailhouse rules set up by their fellow criminals... because if they dont, they get the sh*t kicked out of them, right NOW. Certain. Swift. And severe.
frankj1
7 years ago

Leniency is not the answer. CA has already reduced drug possession to a citation. Read a little about AB-109, Prop 47, and Prop 57. We're letting criminals get away with crime. Property crimes have increased a lot, and homelessness has, too.

Why? Because the guys we're letting out are such losers that even their own families are sick of their sh*t.

Some guy steals your car... gets sentenced to 3 years... he'll be out in a week with no probation or parole. Just like he served his whole term. Zero consequences.

In criminal justice class we learned that in order for a punishment to be effective, it must be 1. Certain 2. Swift and 3. Severe. Our justice system is NONE of those things, which is why criminals don't give 2 craps about following the law... BUT in jail they follow the jailhouse rules set up by their fellow criminals... because if they dont, they get the sh*t kicked out of them, right NOW. Certain. Swift. And severe.

MACS wrote:


just was asking about street level small mj related crimes. Society has started to become honest about mj and it's widespread use and acceptance, and the courts and jails have been filled with cases of those unable to afford quality legal representation while the large scale distributors never got sentenced.

was wondering if getting these people out of cells would help with the proper staffing required for the big stuff like Epstein.
MACS
7 years ago
No. In CA none of them are IN jail.
frankj1
7 years ago

No. In CA none of them are IN jail.

MACS wrote:


had no idea, that's why I asked you.

around here, the courts and cells are filled with them...or were.
MACS
7 years ago
Possession is now a cite and release in CA.

You can have heroin in your pocket and they write you a citation. It's no longer a felony. Does the homeless issue make a little more sense now?
8trackdisco
7 years ago

red herring

frankj1 wrote:



Vice is vice. Whether it be moonshine, marijuana, Cuban cigars, or any sexual kink, networks are helpful. Rich-dudes letting their freak flag fly wouldn't surprise any of us. Look at the whole Hollywood hook ups. Whether it be Harvey Weinstein and the casting couch, Epstein's massage table, or Kraft and his shower board, or stars getting their stupid daughters into college, it's about cash and power.

Only poor perverts shop at Boy Scouts of America.
8trackdisco
7 years ago

Possession is now a cite and release in CA.

You can have heroin in your pocket and they write you a citation. It's no longer a felony. Does the homeless issue make a little more sense now?

MACS wrote:



Funny how the liberal paradise doesn't seem so perfect.
frankj1
7 years ago

Vice is vice. Whether it be moonshine, marijuana, Cuban cigars, or any sexual kink, networks are helpful. Rich-dudes letting their freak flag fly wouldn't surprise any of us. Look at the whole Hollywood hook ups. Whether it be Harvey Weinstein and the casting couch, Epstein's massage table, or Kraft and his shower board, it's about cash and power.

Only poor perverts shop at Boy Scouts of America.

8trackdisco wrote:


hating Kraft is cool, if unrelated. But the China sex slave trafficking claim by the police department in that Kraft case turned out to be baloney...it was free porno on surveillance cams.

Epstein had a whole bunch of people with more political clout than Kraft in his rolodex.
frankj1
7 years ago

Possession is now a cite and release in CA.

You can have heroin in your pocket and they write you a citation. It's no longer a felony. Does the homeless issue make a little more sense now?

MACS wrote:


no citations/release for heroin here in liberal MA.
Harsh winters may discourage even more homeless though.
opelmanta1900
7 years ago



Only poor perverts shop at Boy Scouts of America.

8trackdisco wrote:


This belongs on a Christmas sweater...
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