frankj1
7 years ago

I think I mentioned it previously.... The grand Marshall for the straight pride parade was notorious homosexual Milo Yannapolis... Definitely wasnt an anti-gay thing...

opelmanta1900 wrote:


he's gay, but that isn't even an issue for him.
that info of his involvement makes it like more like a deliberate provocation by right wing extremists.

frankj1
7 years ago

The DA is playing politics, Frank.

And the white supremacy angle was played well before the parade began.
It's probably true that the organizers were involved with a group like that. Who else is stupid enough to hold such an event?

But it appears that the parade did not emulate that mentality.

The only violence came from those protesting the "parade".

Calling these protests "free speech" should be embarrassing even for most liberals. You don't embrace free speech by trying to squelch opposing free speech with violence and force.



Side note: I find it odd that you mention the tie to white supremacy but have not mentioned the "protesters" tie to Antifa. Those masked thugs were in the belly of the crowd getting pepper sprayed.

And you haven't mentioned the actions of one of the "Squad" broads. Presley is pushing for an "independent" investigation. Because she doesn't trust the cops or the judge.



Think about this.
A "straight pride parade" was pulled off over labor day weekend in the city of Boston.
And the polarizing impact will be orchestrated by the DA and Squad Presley.

It would be funny if it weren't despicable.





tailgater wrote:


from my earlier quote:

..." but something like 6 are alleged to have assaulted police. The judge has given every indication he will deal harshly with those individuals if the charges are accurate, as he should."

you know we agree about the squelching. But you may be overlooking the entire premise for this otherwise totally unnecessary parade. Take a look at the organizers. This is what they wanted...even if someone got killed.
tailgater
7 years ago

from my earlier quote:

..." but something like 6 are alleged to have assaulted police. The judge has given every indication he will deal harshly with those individuals if the charges are accurate, as he should."

you know we agree about the squelching. But you may be overlooking the entire premise for this otherwise totally unnecessary parade. Take a look at the organizers. This is what they wanted...even if someone got killed.

frankj1 wrote:




Frank,
The parade went off without major incident.
A handful of violent protesters were arrested.
Except the DA doesn't want the judge to charge them.
Based on.....politics.

And Squad Presley is sticking her bias into the mix. Because.....politics.

It's fricken Boston. They won't allow a Chik fil-A take roost yet no nazi's or maga hats were the cause of any trouble.

Forget the the what-ifs.
Look at what's really happening.
The DA is telling the world that it's OK to use violence if your target has viewpoints that differ from hers.
And when the police and the courts say there is proof, the DA and the squad are going to flex their muscle in an attempt to discredit them.
Because...politics.


Sorry.
I thought the parade was stupid before it began.
But it pales in comparison to what our elected officials are now doing.

Not even close.
izonfire
7 years ago

...Super Happy Fun America,

frankj1 wrote:


What could possibly be wrong with that group?

(are Marxists gay?)

frankj1 wrote:


Harpo definitely is. Zeppo might be in the closet

threadjack off

frankj1 wrote:


Haven’t we had enough trouble tonight without the thread jacking off?
tailgater
7 years ago
Question:
Why are the protesters being referred to as "counter-protesters" by the news media?

That implies that the parade attendees were protesters themselves. When the "intent" was to celebrate their straightness.
And yes. That last statement is as stupid as it sounds. But the city didn't give a protest permit to happy clown parade losers. They gave a parade permit.

So those arrested were not counter protesters. they were simply protesters.

The difference is subtle, yet relevant.
And the narrative is consistent.

victor809
7 years ago

Question:
Why are the protesters being referred to as "counter-protesters" by the news media?

That implies that the parade attendees were protesters themselves. When the "intent" was to celebrate their straightness.
And yes. That last statement is as stupid as it sounds. But the city didn't give a protest permit to happy clown parade losers. They gave a parade permit.

So those arrested were not counter protesters. they were simply protesters.

The difference is subtle, yet relevant.
And the narrative is consistent.

tailgater wrote:



So that's actually an interesting question.

I'm honestly not sure what the answer to that is. I'd have to do some digging.

I don't know if protesters of a parade are commonly referred to as protesters or counter-protesters.

Additionally, I'm not sure what the specific difference between a parade and a protest is (I know that sounds dumb... but it's true. If I wanted to file permits for an anti-trump parade..... is that just a parade? Or is it a protest? I mean, you can play cute and claim they are having a parade for straights.... but there is no rock one can be under that is large enough to hide from the fact this "straight pride parade" is not in response to the existence of a "gay pride parade"... so is it a parade, or a protest masked as a parade?.... is there a permitting difference?)

There's the potential for some merit to your question. But it'd require some other stuff lining up right.
opelmanta1900
7 years ago
Parades have to keep moving...

Thought I'd throw my own stupid but true answer into the mix here...
victor809
7 years ago

Parades have to keep moving...

Thought I'd throw my own stupid but true answer into the mix here...

opelmanta1900 wrote:



That is.... stupidly brilliant? 🙂
opelmanta1900
7 years ago
Ya... I just realized the gayest thing about me isn't my Starbucks order but rather the fact that I've been in a suspiciously high number of parades for a man with a wife and kids...
tailgater
7 years ago

Parades have to keep moving...

Thought I'd throw my own stupid but true answer into the mix here...

opelmanta1900 wrote:



So when you have diarrhea and your bowels continuously move, you could accurately call it a sh1t parade?
opelmanta1900
7 years ago
I call it a show or display, but whatever helps you make money... Every street performer is different...
opelmanta1900
7 years ago
For the record, most parades I've been involved in had a fixed start and finish time that were strictly enforced by the city...

Parade organizers have to file an itinerary for each entry in the parade and determine the speed they'll travel at in order to finish in the time allotted....

Performers are allowed to pause - generally for a maximum of 30 seconds - in front of the judges booth... But after that, you pick your clothes up off the ground, you get back on your wooden horse, and you keep moving...
victor809
7 years ago

Parades have to keep moving...

Thought I'd throw my own stupid but true answer into the mix here...

opelmanta1900 wrote:



So.... to throw a kink into it...
In boston, the permit for parades does not appear to be different from any other street/public use permitting.

so from a paperwork standpoint, a protest and a parade appear to be the same?
opelmanta1900
7 years ago
From Boston city website, specific to parades...

YOUR REQUEST MUST INCLUDE:
the name of the group sponsoring the road race or parade
the date of the event
the route that the road race or parade will take
the formation point for participants
the starting time
the expected number of participants, and
the name, address and daytime telephone number of the organizer.
PARADE VEHICLES
The Boston Police have rules and requirements around parade vehicles. You can learn more about those rules online
tailgater
7 years ago

So.... to throw a kink into it...
In boston, the permit for parades does not appear to be different from any other street/public use permitting.

so from a paperwork standpoint, a protest and a parade appear to be the same?

victor809 wrote:



I do not recall ever seeing protesters being called counter-protesters.
Nor do I recall ever seeing parade attendees being called protesters, which is clearly implied here.

This is all just hogwash anyhow.

We all know why those terms are being used.






opelmanta1900
7 years ago
That's just the application... I'm sure there's more required to be filled after the initial application...
tailgater
7 years ago

Ya... I just realized the gayest thing about me isn't my Starbucks order but rather the fact that I've been in a suspiciously high number of parades for a man with a wife and kids...

opelmanta1900 wrote:



My great grandfather was the grand marshal of my hometown labor day parade for years.

frankj1
7 years ago

Frank,
The parade went off without major incident.
A handful of violent protesters were arrested.
Except the DA doesn't want the judge to charge them.
Based on.....politics.

And Squad Presley is sticking her bias into the mix. Because.....politics.

It's fricken Boston. They won't allow a Chik fil-A take roost yet no nazi's or maga hats were the cause of any trouble.

Forget the the what-ifs.
Look at what's really happening.
The DA is telling the world that it's OK to use violence if your target has viewpoints that differ from hers.
And when the police and the courts say there is proof, the DA and the squad are going to flex their muscle in an attempt to discredit them.
Because...politics.


Sorry.
I thought the parade was stupid before it began.
But it pales in comparison to what our elected officials are now doing.

Not even close.

tailgater wrote:


You couldn't be more wrong about what you understood to be "telling the world" it's ok to use violence
I understand you're probable political issues re: this DA, but you are totally incorrect about her statements on whom to charge and whom to release.

Some of those charged were holding hands to form a soft blockade, and of those charged, she wanted the release of anyone with zero priors. And some being simply verbal were pepper sprayed and may have acted out from that...correctly being investigated.
BUT>>>She also wanted full prosecution of anyone charged with any acts of violence whatsoever.

Anyway, I'm far beyond believing this had anything to do with a handful of members of the vast majority feeling as though they needed to show their pride in the face of, of, I don't even know of what they imagined.

I'm much more intrigued by those who used the marching homophobics as pawns...looking like what the police would do in a sting operation.

Joe, I'm really just caught up in connecting the dots here, not the DA's or Police roles...yet.
I think it's naive to think it was what we saw on the surface.

And paying attention to or wanting to add the squad to this discussion is changing the core focus of what may or may not have happened, so I'll pass on Pressley.

Hope I'm not coming off as angrily defending a position. I had no interest in this until stuff like Opel brought up panned out. Just want to see if there is a real right wing conspiracy to enjoy here.
opelmanta1900
7 years ago

My great grandfather was the grand marshal of my hometown labor day parade for years.

tailgater wrote:


Well your gramma should prolly get an aids test, cuz your grampa's a homo... 🇨🇮
frankj1
7 years ago

Question:
Why are the protesters being referred to as "counter-protesters" by the news media?

That implies that the parade attendees were protesters themselves. When the "intent" was to celebrate their straightness.
And yes. That last statement is as stupid as it sounds. But the city didn't give a protest permit to happy clown parade losers. They gave a parade permit.

So those arrested were not counter protesters. they were simply protesters.

The difference is subtle, yet relevant.
And the narrative is consistent.

tailgater wrote:


incorrect, your grievance did not happen, unless you mean other than the yuuuge Boston Globe. Not sure who else would matter here.

I couldn't recall seeing the term counter protesters used from yesterday's Front Page Above The Fold article on this, so I just dug out the newspaper from the recycle bin.

Beginning with the headline: "Judge Won't Let Protesters Off Hook" and continuing through the front page text and including the secondary headline on the page 7 continuation from page one which reads: "Judge won't dismiss charges against march protesters"...the influential main stream media Boston Globe consistently called the marchers "marchers" and the parade "parade" while calling the protesters of those marching in the parade "protesters". They even called the violent protesters "violent protesters".

It would be subtle, yet relevant, I absolutely agree, had it actually happened in the major media player in Boston.
But it didn't...at least not in the most visible locations.

I now believe in fake news...HA!

For a guy who doesn't like bringing politics into it, you sure are bringing politics into it.
I'm trying to find out what may have happened here, it's sort of fascinating. You may not be aware of it but you are trying to lead this discussion to fringe portions of the event and aftermath.

I don't want this to be about me, you, Pressly, etc. I am now hooked on this mystery...I thank opel.
He was the first to say this parade had nothing to do with people proud of not being gay...the real powers behind the impetus for this march include a gay ex-Breitbart guy who has quite a resume. And a white nationalist(s).

Why?

That's intriguing. Screw the squad's opinion. Clouds the story line.
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