frankj1
6 years ago
I can count my fans on one hand and a zipper
JadeRose
6 years ago


we need the ability to overthrow an unconstitutional government now more than ever considering what ideas progressives have in mind for our future.

Tittums wrote:





This is always my favorite argument of the gun nut crowd. Is that what you're gonna do? Overthrow the Gubmint? Good luck......
Sunoverbeach
6 years ago
I know a couple guys at work might just have the firepower
USNGunner
6 years ago

This is always my favorite argument of the gun nut crowd. Is that what you're gonna do? Overthrow the Gubmint? Good luck......

JadeRose wrote:



Spoken like a true patriot. 🤐

Regardless of what you think, it's been done before. I'll bet you some loyalist folks in Lexington and Concord said that very same thing. 😳
JadeRose
6 years ago

Spoken like a true patriot. 🤐

Regardless of what you think, it's been done before. I'll bet you some loyalist folks in Lexington and Concord said that very same thing. 😳

USNGunner wrote:





I'm loyal to my friends and family. I trust the gubmint about as far as I could throw the Pentagon but you sure as hell aren't going to overthrow it with guns. It would take acts of guerilla warfare. terrorist attacks. Make the people overthrow the gubmint out of fear. Create mass chaos on a nationwide scale in places it would be unexpected. Bring down the power grid and the internet. Make people fear the water supply. Isolate different regions of the country from modern day communications. Hunting rifles or any legal weaponry going toe-to-toe with loyalist forces would be bringing a sponge to a nuclear fight.

USNGunner
6 years ago

I'm loyal to my friends and family. I trust the gubmint about as far as I could throw the Pentagon but you sure as hell aren't going to overthrow it with guns. It would take acts of guerilla warfare. terrorist attacks. Make the people overthrow the gubmint out of fear. Create mass chaos on a nationwide scale in places it would be unexpected. Bring down the power grid and the internet. Make people fear the water supply. Isolate different regions of the country from modern day communications. Hunting rifles or any legal weaponry going toe-to-toe with loyalist forces would be bringing a sponge to a nuclear fight.

JadeRose wrote:



I'm not saying it's likely, but never underestimate Americans. And I'm not talking the ones on the coast wanting socialism. 🤔
steve02
6 years ago

It's very easy to get into the weeds and get screwed over where there are good samaritan laws. I have been thinking about getting a concealed license for awhile since I am in Florida so that is my only option but I worry about things like refusing to get involved in a situation where deadly force is required. It's a damned if you do damned if you don't thing if someone other than you is the victim.

Tittums wrote:




I'm not sure that you understand good samaritan laws - they do NOT require lay responders to act.

*If* you do act and:
1. Don't exceed your level of training/ability and
2. Act within reasonable standards and
3. Perform with good intentions

Then you can't be sued for responding/acting.

So let's look at these:

Lay responder -:one who is not required to intervene - sworn law enforcement aren't lay responders.

1. If you try to make an 80 yard shot with your hand gun and hit an innocent, you are probably screwed. I routinely qualify with my handgun at 100 yards, so I can check off this box.

2. Was your intervention reasonable, using the reasonable man standard - would a reasonable man, in the same situation, act as you did?

3. This is pretty straightforward



USNGunner
6 years ago


3. This is pretty straightforward

steve02 wrote:



Your explanation was much less convoluted than mine. Thanks. 👍
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