DrMaddVibe
6 years ago

Saw some interesting data from China and Europe concerning the folks that don’t die.

teedubbya wrote:




Seeing as how one nation wanted to hide away any scintilla of a pandemic and the others are pissed because the US is doing something about it...kind of invalidates any data you wanted to share from them.

Thanks, but no thanks.

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teedubbya
6 years ago
MACS this is important and you clearly don’t understand it. Maybe I’m too immersed in it but your message includes misinformation and no I wasn’t just let it go. I didn’t say you suggested not disinfecting stuff but you gave information that shows your lack of understanding but continued attempts to weigh, correct things or act smart about this. Your post was simply giving the wrong message.

Reread this thread. You clearly don’t understand this and no YouTube video will get you there. It’s ok. You can’t be an expert in everything. I’d not try giving you advice on how the California corrections system works or sea fishing.

But your grasp of this is limited and you are all over the place. It’s nothing personal. Get a coat. But this is too important for the usual nonsense.

If I don’t respond to your inevitable next message I will later. I hav e 2 minutes to get to another meeting on an ongoing crisis.
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teedubbya
6 years ago

Seeing as how one nation wanted to hide away any scintilla of a pandemic and the others are pissed because the US is doing something about it...kind of invalidates any data you wanted to share from them.

Thanks, but no thanks.

DrMaddVibe wrote:




Um. LMAO.

Not worthy of logical response.
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DrMaddVibe
6 years ago

Um. LMAO.

Not worthy of logical response.

teedubbya wrote:




Then by all means leave!
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opelmanta1900
6 years ago

Washing hands and surface disinfection is critical. I don’t know where any legitimate information minimizing this is coming from. It’s why you should try not to touch your face. Public distancing is important as well. Spey you hit it pretty spot on

Careful where you get your info.

teedubbya wrote:


Michael Osterholm for one disagrees with you... Important? Sure... Is it gonna help stop the spread? According to many sources, no... This virus is spread primarily through breathing...
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teedubbya
6 years ago
Not sure of all your sources and I guess we will have to disagree (not about the breathing part) as well as disagree with the CDC and WHO at the moment. Listening to dr Fauchi I’m not sure how anyone could know that even if it were true. It’s irresponsible to spread that message at this point.
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teedubbya
6 years ago
DMV this is too important for your nonsense. No need for me to leave I’ll just smile and laugh at it.

MACS I respect you. That’s why I care what you say. Some will run with it. No one will do so with anything dmv says. He’s not taken seriously by anyone.
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teedubbya
6 years ago
I am interested in how osterholm is drawing his conclusions.
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teedubbya
6 years ago
On the call I am on right now part of the discussion is on transferring accepted sanitizing processes in hospitals and nursing homes to public places like restaurants as a front line defense to be combined with social distancing etc.
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opelmanta1900
6 years ago

Not sure of all your sources and I guess we will have to disagree as well as disagree with the CDC and WHO at the moment. Listening to dr Fauchi I’m not sure how anyone could know that even if it were true. It’s irresponsible to spread that message at this point.

teedubbya wrote:


Can you at least concede that if in fact a particular virus is spread primarily through breathing, then all the handwashing and surface cleansing in the world will not stop its spread?

The data on SARS and MERS are fairly clear on the method in which corona virus is typically spread...
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opelmanta1900
6 years ago

I am interested in how osterholm is drawing his conclusions.

teedubbya wrote:


MERS and SARS, the two most widely studied corona viruses we have...
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opelmanta1900
6 years ago
MERS in particular (I'm hearing) is probably going to end up being a good model for how this corona virus is going to act based on the weather conditions we'll soon be encountering...
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teedubbya
6 years ago
^ I’m aware of that. Worked on both in one way or another. That doesn’t answer my q but I can go look.

No argument on breathing. And no one thing will stop it. It has to be a multifaceted attack in which sanitation has a major role. I can’t imagine Osterholm disagreeing with that. I haven’t read or heard it so I’ll take your word for it. I can’t help but think it’s being misinterpreted or extrapolated further than he meant.
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teedubbya
6 years ago
Have to engage in the next part of the call. Will pop back later.
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USNGunner
6 years ago

Can you at least concede that if in fact a particular virus is spread primarily through breathing, then all the handwashing and surface cleansing in the world will not stop its spread?

The data on SARS and MERS are fairly clear on the method in which corona virus is typically spread...

opelmanta1900 wrote:



I actually was reading a report that it's droplet based. Not aerosol.

But regardless, the cleansing portion stops it from getting a foothold, because you can still transmit it that way.
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MACS
6 years ago

I am interested in how osterholm is drawing his conclusions.

teedubbya wrote:



No offense, tee... but however he's drawing his conclusions I am more apt to believe him due to his extensive knowledge and background in infectious diseases. YMMV

I am not claiming to be an expert. I am all over the place, or at least I was until I listened to what Osterholm had to say.

And while I have a respectable grasp of ocean fishing... I'm no expert there, either. In fact, I am decent... with a hell of a lot to learn and a willingness to do so!
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opelmanta1900
6 years ago

Have to engage in the next part of the call. Will pop back later.

teedubbya wrote:


there's 2 o's in poop...
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teedubbya
6 years ago
You have more expertise than me on ocean fishing and I’d never watch a YouTube video on the subject and think it’s changes that fact. You didn’t go from all over the place to grounded by one video. But you do have more info and better info and deserve respect for that.

I honestly think his message must be misinterpreted, taken too far from his context or he didn’t communicate it well but I’ve not watched it yet so am talking out my butt. And things are changing every day. A week ago seems like an eternity. I am tired of this stuff. It’s consuming my world lol.

Have fun guys. Back later.
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opelmanta1900
6 years ago

No offense, tee... but however he's drawing his conclusions I am more apt to believe him due to his extensive knowledge and background in infectious diseases. YMMV

I am not claiming to be an expert. I am all over the place, or at least I was until I listened to what Osterholm had to say.

And while I have a respectable grasp of ocean fishing... I'm no expert there, either. In fact, I am decent... with a hell of a lot to learn and a willingness to do so!

MACS wrote:


you sound like a guy who has no idea how many infectious diseases tw has had...
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opelmanta1900
6 years ago

^ I’m aware of that. Worked on both in one way or another. That doesn’t answer my q but I can go look.

No argument on breathing. And no one thing will stop it. It has to be a multifaceted attack in which sanitation has a major role. I can’t imagine Osterholm disagreeing with that. I haven’t read or heard it so I’ll take your word for it. I can’t help but think it’s being misinterpreted or extrapolated further than he meant.

teedubbya wrote:


I'll pull it up and find the exact portion for you...
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