The authors also note the very narrow toxic range of chloroquinone (this is how idiots who try to prescribe for themselves end up in critical care. It has very little to do with the source of the material, aquarium or not)

victor809 wrote:

I'm thinking it's the same reason people tout some of those cold cures.
With a certain percentage of people who are sick, given time, they get better. [.....] This is why double blinded studies have to be done for any actual believable data

victor809 wrote:

(Sigh). Yes. This is all obvious and I've agreed to it many times. Yes, yes I know. Yes. No, really, I know. Honest. Yes. See above. We've been over all this already.

And here's my reply, repeated again:

The fact remains that a bunch of partial bits of data all collectively strongly hint that it may be effective, and these are exigent circumstances and the stuff is relatively safe for most people when under a doctor's supervision and it's only a 5-day course, and for many patients it's worth the risk to try it off-label and see if it works before the formal study results that we absolutely need eventually but will come too late for lots of people.

To prevent endless further repetitions of this, from now on, whenever anyone starts with this I'm just going to say "See post #384 above". Nice quick shorthand so I don't have to keep typing this same stuff over and over.
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Pudding Mittens wrote:

Thinking through it we’ve missed an important opportunity. Has anyone consulted with Chuck Norris or RAM?

teedubbya wrote:

I am fascinated by the vaccine efforts. Bill Gates discussed it a bit last night.

I also learned we began working on it the evening (1/10) we received the genetic sequence from China. Three days later NIH shared their vaccine sequence with a manufacturer. 3/16 the first human received the trial vaccine. May not seem like it but that’s phenomenal.

teedubbya wrote:

I am fascinated by the vaccine efforts. Bill Gates discussed it a bit last night.

I also learned we began working on it the evening (1/10) we received the genetic sequence from China. Three days later NIH shared their vaccine sequence with a manufacturer. 3/16 the first human received the trial vaccine. May not seem like it but that’s phenomenal.

teedubbya wrote:

The issue is the physical damage that is done to the lung tissue by initial exposure to the virus. It's not just an inflammatory/immune response. This causes physical damage to the cells that do the air exchange.

danmdevries wrote:

Saw you mention this before.
Gotta admit, that part's worse than I thought....

victor809 wrote: