teedubbya
6 years ago
Yea wish we could scrap trump and Biden and start over but we get what we deserve.

I wish it was ham sammich vs meatball sub.
teedubbya
6 years ago
By the way I do see some efforts happening that do deserve kudos and are in the right direction.
Pudding Mittens
6 years ago
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Allow me to briefly depart from all the "ORANGE MAN STUPID, WRONG AND BAD!" posts to point out that Laura Ingraham interviewed a guy on her show last night who couldn't stop grinning. He was Skyping into the show from his house, because he's home and feeling perfectly healthy. Like several others she's interviewed, he was on death's doorstep with COVID-19, barely able to breathe, an infectious disease specialist doctor prescribed him hydroxychloroquine and azithromycin, and "within a few hours" he could breathe normally again and he made an incredibly quick and full recovery.

Notice the similarity in timeframe of the sudden resolution of the extreme breathing difficulty:

1. This guy - "a few hours" after first dose.
2. Earlier guy on her show - "the next morning", after he took the first dose at bedtime.
3. Dr. Z's 699 patients - about 4-6 hours after their first doses

Verrrrrry interesting.

(Yes yes yes I know for god's sake please don't repeat the same lecture about anecdotals versus formal studies, we've covered the living schitt out of it. 🐓 🐓 🐓 )

And now, I return you to your regularly-scheduled deluge of "ORANGE MAN STUPID, WRONG AND BAD!" posts.
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delta1
6 years ago
FDA approved the use of hydrochloroquine for emergency use...said it is worth the risk, for only a few days for each patient...did not approve long-term use or prophylactic use...


hope it works
8trackdisco
6 years ago

Still better than Hillary. We need another viable option.

MACS wrote:



Yep.
frankj1
6 years ago

On today’s version of the Baghdad Bob show Bob explains how he was one of the first to realize this isn’t the flu and is indeed a brutal virus (cue laugh track). He went on to present himself as the guy that’s been trying to convince people this is worse than the flu (louder laugh track). While patently and prove able false his kardashian type following will ignore this and embrace it as the new doublespeak truth.

We also hear again how messed up everything he inherited from Obama but him mike and the doctors have fixed things. This is a recurring storyline that hopefully will sunset now that many of Bobs followers have bought it.

We also hear a personal story from bob about a friend who is macho but a little overweight who caught the evil disease, went to the hospital and is now in a coma. Assuming this is true, which is always a big assumption with the minister of disinformation, it may shed light on his turnaround since he’s seemed to be at odds with the pandemic models up to this point.

Bob also set the stage to claim anything less than 100,000 deaths is a victory for him and his admin. He left flexibility to use 200,000 as the bar but he could lower that projection from 200,000 to 400,00 at any time.

Other than this I hope Bobs performance today is sincere in terms of how we approach this from here. The future is more important than the past and here we are. If this is his new attitude kudos .... maybe he’s starting to get it. I’ve thought so before and said so in here but the following day he proved me wrong.

That whack whacky Baghdad Bob. Can’t wait for the next episode.

teedubbya wrote:


It feels like the Docs figured out how to lead him to the podium with info to make it look like they are following him...

Fauci said the other day it sometimes takes 4 times to get the facts across to Trump, but I think seeing the 6 figure death numbers struck a chord, a wake up call perhaps, fear of blame for sure, and a subtle deal was made...notice how much Dr. Morse Code kept deferring to him today?

They can now speak openly as long as it doesn't look like he is being contradicted...at least that's how it makes me feel...and it's a good thing, at least better than when the info was not allowed to flow. We are perhaps safer than we would have been, and his issues are assuaged.
teedubbya
6 years ago
When I hear Laura Ingram I stop listening. But I do hope the drugs work. You just won’t learn much useful from those types of shows.
Pudding Mittens
6 years ago

When I hear Laura Ingram I stop listening.

teedubbya wrote:


That's like saying I don't like AT&T, so whenever someone tells me something over an AT&T phone connection I stop listening.

The guy's description of what happened to him medically is completely unrelated to what show he's telling it on.

You just won’t learn much useful from those types of shows.


Yes, you do. You hear anecdotals which may fit into a pattern along with many others.

Not as good as controlled formal studies, no, but during "wartime" it's still somewhat useful. And again, the particular show the guy is talking on is irrelevant.
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teedubbya
6 years ago
Not really. One is a physical communication tool. The other is a highly produced propaganda mechanism.

You know I am hopeful for those drugs but I really don’t give a **** what the Ingram angle says or what they cherry pick. It’s just not legitimate at all. It wasn’t too long ago she to was minimizing the virus and this fits her MO.

Causality is important here. But again I’m not arguing against the drugs. But you’d never catch me peddling Ingrams crap and hoping to be taken seriously.

teedubbya
6 years ago
We just disagree. Watch what you like though.
Pudding Mittens
6 years ago

Not really. One is a physical communication tool. The other is a highly produced propaganda mechanism.

teedubbya wrote:


Not when they just open a Skype connection for the guy and he just tells his story and that's it. Then, her show is just a physical communication tool, a conduit. He would give the exact same content on any other show.

If you want to talk selection of who gets on and who doesn't, sure she has power over that.

Still, it's interesting to hear anecdotals that fit in not only with other anecdotals from other media outlets but also fit in with large group observations, like Dr. Z's 699 patients and what they experienced.

We just disagree. Watch what you like though.

teedubbya wrote:


Yeah we do. But we're sharing some great info here overall. Let's keep it going.
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MACS
6 years ago
Once again, your bias shows, tw... the messenger is not important here... the MESSAGE is. Puddin' told you he knows the evidence is (at present) anecdotal.

It's happening more and more and hearing from someone who actually lived through it, to me... is relevant.
teedubbya
6 years ago
She has power over who she Skyped in and don’t think for a moment she doesn’t know what they are going to say and has cherry picked them for that purpose. She isn’t choosing people or families where it didn’t work (like danm) experience.

She very much has the ability to skew things and this is no harmless pass through. Her show is what it is. It’s a propaganda machine.

Infowars was notorious fir ā€œSkypingā€ people in that supported his BS and proved things. It was bunk. So is she.

Aside from that I’m not arguing against the drugs. Using Ingram or other fox or msnbc entertainers trying to paint a preprogrammed picture weakens your ability to be taken serious.... which I have and do.

teedubbya
6 years ago
If she’s not cherry picking then it’s good anecdotal info. If she is then it’s not.

And don’t fool yourself. It’s more than just pass through information.

Fox/MSNBC etc. doesn’t matter. Don’t get caught up in the garbage.
teedubbya
6 years ago
and again I’m hopeful for the meds.
teedubbya
6 years ago
Sigh MACS go watch msnbc for awhile. You will see them do the same with their interviews. You will call them bunk and know what they are up to.

Now think to yourself. Is it possible fox and Ingram do the same thing? She’s heavily invested in this. She was Trish Regan light on the virus itself and the whole network had to switch their reporting dramatically.
teedubbya
6 years ago
But the horse is dead. If you really think it’s my bias so be it. I just hope they are right and it’s a miracle cure. I also hoped this was no worse than the flu. Hopefully I’ll bat .500 with my hopes.
frankj1
6 years ago
tw is correct.

Hi Laura, first time long time. just called to say...

doesn't mean eventually the drugs are good, mmmkay?
or even no good.

there are no random guests on any of these political opinion shaping shows.

none.
Pudding Mittens
6 years ago
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Wow, I never knew that news outlets are run by people who get to decide what is covered and what isn't, and that they sometimes are biased! I learned something today, awesome! Thank you

The fact remains that that guy was still cured, apparently by this two-drug cocktail. So was another guy she had on. And a guy before that.

And, curiously, their stories and "trajectories" and timelines (breathing difficulties ceasing several hours into treatment) all seem to align very closely with data from other individuals and groups who are completely unconnected to her or Fox News, including one with a sample size of 699 patients.

I guess Laura Ingraham has psychic control over lots of other doctors and researchers and individuals she and her show have never had any contact with. That must be it.

Either that or it's pure coincidence, I'm sure. It's all a Fox News conspiracy somehow!
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teedubbya
6 years ago
But you really don’t know if it really did or didn’t.

I’ve seen similar pass through interviews proving school shootings involved crisis actors and where wolves exist in New Mexico.

The problem is she’s not investigating she’s trying to prove her preconceived political message.
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