ZRX1200
6 years ago
You should be practicing good hygiene and proper hand washing while using PPE where necessary.
MACS
6 years ago

You should be practicing good hygiene and proper hand washing while using PPE where necessary.

ZRX1200 wrote:



You ain't the boss of me... 🤐
8trackdisco
6 years ago

You ain't the boss of me... 🤐

MACS wrote:



You could get the Bangers together for a hand washing exercise.

Blacks, Arians, Southern & Northern Latino sects all in the same room together singing Happy Birthday twice through the sudsing up.

It would be like an adult After School Special.
victor809
6 years ago
I'm kinda with 8 on this.

The reality of testing is that it's only for that moment. It doesn't mean you'll be safe at any time after, hell doesn't mean you haven't been infected between testing and getting the results.

The thing it does do is allows our society to take a person who tests positive out of circulation for at least a few of the days they were infectious.

If.... When.... MACS gets covid-19, if he doesn't get tested and doesn't ever show symptoms, he'll spend 10 days (give or take) giving it to everyone he works with, and possibly some people he interacts with at gas stations or grocery stores. If we test him halfway through that, there are fewer other people who will get exposed.

The testing isn't to protect his immediate family... They're a write off at that point, it's to keep it from spreading out from him to other parts of the community.

But yeah, to do this successfully, we need lots of testing... And actual isolation. If we were smart, the instant someone at the jail popped positive, we would isolate everyone who works there, not let them keep working... They're exposed. Take them out of isolation in 2 weeks. Torch the jail... It's infected.
KingoftheCove
6 years ago

5 minutes?? Try 2-5 days.

We don't have those fancy "Abbott" 5-15 minute tests around here... although interestingly enough... we do have an Abbott Labs in Temecula.

MACS wrote:


Right.......so if we could just get a cheap, reliable fast test, you test every 48 hours.....and nurses, doctors, fireman, food store workers, etc
That’s testing that could really help.
USNGunner
6 years ago

5 minutes?? Try 2-5 days.

We don't have those fancy "Abbott" 5-15 minute tests around here... although interestingly enough... we do have an Abbott Labs in Temecula.

MACS wrote:



9 days is the average here.
Sunoverbeach
6 years ago
I don't even know of a place to get tested around here let alone how long for results
MACS
6 years ago
LA doctor saying hydroxychloroquine taken with zinc is showing effectiveness...

https://abc7news.com/coronavirus-drug-covid-19-malaria-hydroxychloroquine/6079864/ 
chazbo
6 years ago
The governor of California just spent a billion dollars on protective equipment for all health care workers in their state..
opelmanta1900
6 years ago
I disagree with our governor on a lot of things, but he seems to be handling this crisis like a champ, even putting aside his differences with the president to ensure our state is taken care of...
fishinguitarman
6 years ago
7-10 business days
USNGunner
6 years ago

I don't even know of a place to get tested around here let alone how long for results

Sunoverbeach wrote:



You have to be referred by a doctor.
MACS
6 years ago

US has 369,069 confirmed cases and 11,008 deaths so far. If my math is correct, that's 3% no?

And that's with limited testing.

MACS wrote:



So I've been thinking about this some more. Here in CA, only people who are showing any symptoms are getting tested. I assume since we're short on tests, this is true in all the hot spots??

Isn't that like testing for alcoholism at a bar? (credit to Bucky)

I'm sure the fatality rate has to be a whole lot lower than 3%.
teedubbya
6 years ago
Likely. But a lot of folks killed by the virus also were not tested.

Sort of like a lot of folks died from pneumonia not aids.
delta1
6 years ago
and many who didn't die will be permanently disabled (don't know what the % is)...the long term costs associated with that also has to be factored in...
MACS
6 years ago

and many who didn't die will be permanently disabled (don't know what the % is)...the long term costs associated with that also has to be factored in...

delta1 wrote:



What do you base that on?
teedubbya
6 years ago
Obliterated lungs
Pudding Mittens
6 years ago

LA doctor saying hydroxychloroquine taken with zinc is showing effectiveness...

https://abc7news.com/coronavirus-drug-covid-19-malaria-hydroxychloroquine/6079864/ 

MACS wrote:


Yes, apparently the hydroxychloroquine makes it much easier for zinc to get inside your cells, where the zinc greatly interferes with viral replication. So, both taken together are real dynamite. Dr. Vladimir Zelenko from NY state noted the same thing, seeing amazing results using both plus azithromycin in 699 patients, nearly all of whom had great recoveries, and most of whom had symptoms very greatly reduced within just 4-6 hours after first dose.

The azithromycin also greatly enhances effects. Experts are unsure if it's just prevention/attacking secondary bacterial infections or something more, but it seems to be something more, given azithromycin's long-observed history of apparent antiviral effects in-vivo, and clear evidence against virii in-vitro.

To sum up though, the three together (hydroxychloroquine, azithromycin and zinc usually in the form of zinc sulfate) are quite the effective combination.

Dr. Stephen Smith, Dr. Ramin Oskoui, the aforementioned Dr. Vladimir Zelenko all have large and ever-growing databases of patients in which this triple-combo worked great.

Lots of anecdotals too, including the MI state rep Democrat who, like many others have said, saw huge relief from symptoms in just hours after starting the treatment. I've seen lots of others that say "overnight" or "within hours" of the first dose, they felt amazingly better.

Also, Dr. Marc Siegel (associate professor of medicine at NYU Langone Medical Center) announced last night that he witnessed a 96-year-old man who was on death's doorstep suddenly have an amazing recovery just hours after taking the combo.... and he should know, because the man is his father!

The French doctor who did the original small study on hydroxychloroquine and azithromycin, then did the 80-patient one with similar amazing results, has just completed a 1000-patient study. Again like the others it's uncontrolled (as he considers it unethical to deny half the participants life-saving treatments), but he's reporting that of the 1000, only 7 required ICU of which only 2 died, presumably meaning the other 993 survived and recovered. Publication is pending.

Stay tuned!
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MACS
6 years ago

here's an article about life after a bout with COVID-19
https://www.sciencemag.org/news/2020/04/survivors-severe-covid-19-beating-virus-just-beginning 

delta1 wrote:



Severe cases, Al. Supposedly 80% of cases are mild and up to 20% are asymptomatic.
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