HockeyDad
6 years ago

That's exactly my point. It would be different if you saw two candidates and the "white supremacist support" was split between the two... or even 70-30.... but when 98.2% of all white supremacists support one candidate (official cbid made up statistic, you can tell by the number. But I don't see anyone challenging the idea) then you have to ask yourself what it is that they are doing which makes them so damn appealing to those people.

And yes, that would be hypocritical of me if I voted for conservatives. But I don't. I can't, because I will not align myself with them. In the past (pre-trump) I was willing to. And before twitler got the nomination I was prepared to vote for one of 2 or 3 of the Republican candidates over Clinton. I may prefer to have a more conservative government (actual conservative, not current republican nonsense) but I refuse to be associated with the people currently supporting the president. They are legitimizing racism by trying to hide it in politics.

victor809 wrote:



I’ll challenge the fabricated straw man statistic. Current polling shows the racist vote to be running almost 50/50 between Biden and Trump.

I’m starting to get the feeling that you aren’t going to vote for Trump. I understand the struggle of having to choose between what you see as this new wave Trump racism versus Biden’s old style traditional Democrat racism. It’s like when you visit a grandparent and they say “negro” during conversation at dinner. You know you’re supposed to be horrified but...well...that’s just how grandpa is.
Abrignac
6 years ago

Do we actually know this? In the middle of a pandemic, where businesses across the city are shut down for covid, why would you think it'd be a protest that would keep people away?

victor809 wrote:



Let’s not confuse a peaceful protest with an armed invasion and occupation. The CHOPpers enforced a residents only policy. So if outsiders wanted to patronize the businesses they were prevented from doing so. Add to that the fact that most people avoid conflict when possible and an idiot should see the parallel. But, then you have people who will act like that guy with the invisible clothes who ignores any logic at all to try to prove he’s smarter than everyone else. A well edumacated dumbass if you will.

teedubbya
6 years ago
Is that why Trump is tweeting videos of screaming champs yelling white power wearing Maga hats because he’s losing ground on the white supremacist crowd?
victor809
6 years ago

Let’s not confuse a peaceful protest with an armed invasion and occupation. The CHOPpers enforced a residents only policy. So if outsiders wanted to patronize the businesses they were prevented from doing so. Add to that the fact that most people avoid conflict when possible and an idiot should see the parallel. But, then you have people who will act like that guy with the invisible clothes who ignores any logic at all to try to prove he’s smarter than everyone else. A well edumacated dumbass if you will.

Abrignac wrote:


What makes you think outsiders are not allowed? I've seen video of people just entering and leaving. Hell those proud boys racists went in. You keep stating things which are easily disproven.
victor809
6 years ago

I’ll challenge the fabricated straw man statistic. Current polling shows the racist vote to be running almost 50/50 between Biden and Trump.

I’m starting to get the feeling that you aren’t going to vote for Trump. I understand the struggle of having to choose between what you see as this new wave Trump racism versus Biden’s old style traditional Democrat racism. It’s like when you visit a grandparent and they say “negro” during conversation at dinner. You know you’re supposed to be horrified but...well...that’s just how grandpa is.

HockeyDad wrote:



Yes, as with everything this election, it's a matter of choosing the "lesser of two weevils".
Rather than trump's screaming racism (note - I did NOT say racists were 98.2% for trump. I stated white supremacists. I still stand by that number, you have shown me nothing to indicate otherwise), I have to accept Biden's general acceptance of institutional racism.
Rather than trump's 23 rape accusations, I have to settle for Biden's 1 or 2 or something...

I'm not seeing how you're trying to make an argument.
delta1
6 years ago
sure are a lot of people outraged at people for calling out racism
victor809
6 years ago
To be fair, even people who support BLM were a little wary of CHOP by the end. It truly did morph into its own little protest.... a bit of this and a bit of that. I wouldn't call CHOP a BLM protest by the end... It was a bit more occupy wall-street, but with wall street being the Seattle police.
HockeyDad
6 years ago

Yes, as with everything this election, it's a matter of choosing the "lesser of two weevils".
Rather than trump's screaming racism (note - I did NOT say racists were 98.2% for trump. I stated white supremacists. I still stand by that number, you have shown me nothing to indicate otherwise), I have to accept Biden's general acceptance of institutional racism.
Rather than trump's 23 rape accusations, I have to settle for Biden's 1 or 2 or something...

I'm not seeing how you're trying to make an argument.

victor809 wrote:



You are standing by a number you made up and somehow think it is better than a number I made up which is simply incorrect and shows unconscious bias and therefore you are a racist.
teedubbya
6 years ago
I heard BLM is racist. Someone in it doesn’t like mt Rushmore and stuff.
Abrignac
6 years ago

What makes you think outsiders are not allowed? I've seen video of people just entering and leaving. Hell those proud boys racists went in. You keep stating things which are easily disproven.

victor809 wrote:



So you’re going on record saying news reports of the chop “police” refusing entry to anyone who didn’t live in the area false?


Abrignac
6 years ago

What makes you think outsiders are not allowed? I've seen video of people just entering and leaving. Hell those proud boys racists went in. You keep stating things which are easily disproven.

victor809 wrote:



So you’re going on record saying news reports of the chop “police” refusing entry to anyone who didn’t live in the area false?


victor809
6 years ago
I'm saying I have seen no reputable reports that average citizens are kept from accessing the area.
I have heard of police not being allowed access, and I have heard of issues with proud boys idiots trying to enter with guns. Neither of those count as "average citizens" in my mind. Other than that I have seen video of people just entering with very little oversight. Not like the had a bunch of people patrolling 24/7, it's a hippie sit in.
Dg west deptford
6 years ago
This Book of the Law shall not depart from your mouth, but you shall meditate on it day and night, so that you may be careful to do according to all that is written in it. For then you will make your way prosperous, and then you will have good success.
Joshua
#Law and order
teedubbya
victor809
6 years ago
Dude's always out of left field.


Like a religious Mr Jones.
Dg west deptford
6 years ago
Religiosity is for the dead, think of me as a left fielder who Coach put in the to the RiGhT FieLd
teedubbya
Speyside
6 years ago
I am at a loss for words.
Speyside
6 years ago
What the hell does any of this particular thread have to do with religion? Take your biblical quotes and shove them up your ass. It's like listening to an Islamic fundamentalist when you ramble on.
victor809
6 years ago
I can't even get mad at DG.... Dude's out there... But it's amusing.
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