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danmdevries
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6 years ago

#21

The long haul for many is going to be long.

Several coworkers got it. Only one death, a nurse I didn't know except for when they were my patient.

But those who returned to work have serious fatigue issues, and they breathe like emphysema patients.

I dont ask them about it, its clearly a traumatic event and a black cloud over their heads.

Theres a handful too who had a cough and fever but then came back full time without any signs of ongoing issues. Its about half and half. But several quit working too, so I dont know how they're doing either.

Buckwheat
Herf-A-Holic

6 years ago

#22

Security is mostly a superstition. It does not exist in nature, nor do the children of men as a whole experience it. Avoiding danger is no safer in the long run than outright exposure. Life is either a daring adventure, or nothing. - Helen Keller

MACS wrote:

+1

Live your life as you see fit and accept the consequences of your actions. 🌫

victor809
Herf-A-Holic

6 years ago

#23

You seem to think that the FDA has not approved any medications that later caused all the class action lawsuits and harmed thousands. Thalidomide ring a bell?

The FDA is big on letting the manufacturers do the testing and relying on their advice and "science".

deadeyedick wrote:

I know thalidomide very well. It's highlighted in every GMP based course I've taken. But you also have to realize that the FDA is mainly a reactive organization. Something goes wrong, and they add to their set of regulations. Thalidomide I believe actually ushered in the multi-phase testing currently being used. Prior to thalidomide, I think there was just a demonstration that the drug was "safe" not any ongoing monitored usage to prove it was effective (such as you may see in Phase III trials).

I have a large list of complaints about the FDA, but lack of willingness to increase the regulations to improve safety is not one of them. You'd be hard pressed to find a public scandal that didn't result in increased safety regulations in that organization.

opelmanta1900
Herf-A-Holic

6 years ago

#24

+1

Live your life as you see fit and accept the consequences of your actions. 🌫

Buckwheat wrote:

Why not... seems like it worked out pretty well for every serial killer who ever lived...

HockeyDad
Herf-A-Holic

6 years ago

#25

Can I herf with you guys too?

rfenst wrote:

Absolutely!

delta1
Herf-A-Holic

6 years ago

#26

Can I herf with you guys too?

rfenst wrote:

absolutely!!!

this is gonna be one epic heckuva roadtrip...MACS and me, drive cross country to FL to pick-up rfenst, head to LA to grab abrignac (hopefully he's stopped playing with his newly repaired hand)...back to central CA to pick-up Opel, then to HD's place...

may have to rent a big SUV...

HockeyDad
Herf-A-Holic

6 years ago

#27

I got a case of Silverado Vineyards Cabernet delivered today. They’re pulling old stuff out of storage for restaurant sales and offering it to the wine club members. Wineries are getting slaughtered on their restaurant sales.

grmcooper
Herf-A-Holic

6 years ago

#28

Who cares it will just effect truckers. We are all safe

Speyside
Herf-A-Holic Topic Starter

6 years ago

#29

HD, expect more of that. I have called specific wineries and asked if I could buy a specific vintage of a particular wine. Every single one said yes.

HockeyDad
Herf-A-Holic

6 years ago

#30

You can get whatever you want that’s for sure.

The ones in the best shape had a decent retail model. The ones that were more built around restaurants and on site visits had to pivot pretty heavily to survive. Wine clubs are proving to be an even more important part of the model.

If you like mountain wines, Mt Veeder was completely burned in 2017. It is still unclear if Howell Mountain has escaped the LNU Lightning Complex Fire this year.

Mr. Jones
Herf-A-Holic

6 years ago

#31

F U

Hockeydad

You TAINT' licker...

BWUHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!

LOL!!!

HockeyDad
Herf-A-Holic

6 years ago

#32

As soon as Kamala is sworn in as VP she’s going to green light you!

Mr. Jones
Herf-A-Holic

6 years ago

#33

It will be Another traGic GREENLIGHT DEATH... AVOIDED in full again.... BY A superbly TRAINED CIVILIAN SUBCONTRACTOR trade CRafT sPoOk...

My LoyAl contacts (from iowA and elsewhere).... are too powErFul ....many people in the know in D.C. are beholdin' to tres Norte , Sub Whitey , the voyeur and Mr. ADd-A- dAy stevenmNson.

KamaLA is just a nEwBie...

just like I did for 5 years after Barry , Comey and Uncle Joe cool ordered the last one in 2013 at the OCCIDENTAL GRILLE one block from the white hut..

frankj1
Herf-A-Holic

6 years ago

#34

It's very early and just a handful have been followed, but there are indications that previously very healthy competitive male athletes in their late teens and early 20's who have recovered from covid-19 have had about 15% found to have heart damage...even if they showed no symptoms during their virus infections...

Cardiac magnetic resonance imaging found signs of inflammation of the heart muscle. The findings of myocarditis in this population "adds to a growing body of evidence that the pneumonia-causing coronavirus is also resulting in damage to the heart, as well as other organs".

My interest in this trail of post virus damage (not including the death count) began when the Red Sox lost their ace starting pitcher to myocarditis following his isolation and quarantine after testing positive... pretty sure he is not an at risk over 65 year old diabetic

edit: lost him for this season, so far. He is alive.

Edited by user 6 years ago | Reason: Not specified

Speyside
Herf-A-Holic Topic Starter

6 years ago

#35

Frank, the beast is causing inflamation of all blood vessels. It sets off a Cytokin storm in the blood which triggers a Rinnkinkin storm in the blood. They both do crazy chit. By the day we are learning we have never seen anything like this. In hospitalized patients the damaged hearts seem to be about %75. Though do realize many of these folks were on deaths doorstep to start with. Here is the scary part. Sale is now in multiple high risk groups. He has heart damage, and he is autoimmune comprised.

ZRX1200
Herf-A-Holic

6 years ago

#36

He should’ve taken hydroxyclorine and zinc.

frankj1
Herf-A-Holic

6 years ago

#37

Speyside wrote:

not Sale...Eduardo Rodriguez. Even younger!

Smooth light
Herf-A-Holic

6 years ago

#38

Condoms before,better than the meds after.

Hydroxyclorine + zinc less heart problems than the New fangled stuff seams to being doing, plus the after effects.

Test positive give them the Quinn+Z.

Their choice if it works fine,if not they can do it your way.

But you can't make money or have control, with fear. We are not your new lab. 🐀 rats.

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