delta1
5 years ago
we have developed, updated, trusted and accepted our election/voting processes for the past 240 plus years...even the closest elections have been accepted, although some did require judicial review and numerous re-counts...

nobody expected Trump to win in 2016 - even he and his campaign were shocked...

people cried but did not threaten an armed insurrection...

if he wins again...same...

if he loses..........
CelticBomber
5 years ago

The quotes are in reference to North Carolina. Do NC mail-in voters have the ability to check if their vote has been tabulated? NCVOTER.ORG says yes, they use ballottrax so a voter can see status of your ballot, whether or not it was received and accepted. If the system works as they say, then you shouldn't then be able to vote in person and have your vote accepted and counted twice. The question being put forth then is the system trustworthy? A fair question.

There are other serious concerns with mail-in voting itself. In the Democratic Primary One in New York City one out of four mail-in ballots were disqualified for arriving late, lacking a postmark or failing to include a voter’s signature, or other defects.
403,103 mail-in ballots were received, 84,108 ballots were not counted or invalidated.

Also there have been shenanigans pulled by outside political groups.
https://www.newsobserver.com/news/politics-government/article243431061.html 

How many ways then can mass mail-in voting potentially cause chaos in a Presidential election?

RayR wrote:




Sophistry.

"So let them send it in and let them go vote..." Do both, see what happens. Illegal. He didn't say mail in your vote and then check the app to see if it was counted and if not then go vote in person. He said do both, see what happens.


Tell yourself whatever you like. It doesn't change what he said. You create your own reality. People don't believe what they see and hear. They see and hear what they already believe. You've created a reality for yourself no different than those other idiots running around burning stuff thinking they're justified.
frankj1
5 years ago

The quotes are in reference to North Carolina. Do NC mail-in voters have the ability to check if their vote has been tabulated? NCVOTER.ORG says yes, they use ballottrax so a voter can see status of your ballot, whether or not it was received and accepted. If the system works as they say, then you shouldn't then be able to vote in person and have your vote accepted and counted twice. The question being put forth then is the system trustworthy? A fair question.

There are other serious concerns with mail-in voting itself. In the Democratic Primary One in New York City one out of four mail-in ballots were disqualified for arriving late, lacking a postmark or failing to include a voter’s signature, or other defects.
403,103 mail-in ballots were received, 84,108 ballots were not counted or invalidated.

Also there have been shenanigans pulled by outside political groups.
https://www.newsobserver.com/news/politics-government/article243431061.html 

How many ways then can mass mail-in voting potentially cause chaos in a Presidential election?



RayR wrote:


North Carolina was not among the 39 states in my post.
It is still among the 11 stoopid states.

anyone sending past due date or not properly signing is also stoopid.
Sucks to be them.
5 years ago
I believe so many people are afraid he’s gonna win again. Stop the madness. These elections are done electronically.
Smooth light
5 years ago
TDS! IN FULL DISPLAY
🌹smell good, not B💩 don't,
let everyone legally vote,
that's your hope,
so some can smoke dope
bgz
  • bgz
  • Herf-A-Holic
5 years ago

Sophistry.

"So let them send it in and let them go vote..." Do both, see what happens. Illegal. He didn't say mail in your vote and then check the app to see if it was counted and if not then go vote in person. He said do both, see what happens.


Tell yourself whatever you like. It doesn't change what he said. You create your own reality. People don't believe what they see and hear. They see and hear what they already believe. You've created a reality for yourself no different than those other idiots running around burning stuff thinking they're justified.

CelticBomber wrote:



Yep, Trump asked his supporters to commit a felony on his behalf. That's the way I read it.
DrafterX
5 years ago
He also corrected himself within a few hours... Biden says stupid chit everyday and it gets dismissed like it never happened... 😟
bgz
  • bgz
  • Herf-A-Holic
5 years ago
X, he does that all the time... spits out some sociopathic mind games, then comes out later and says it was a joke... or he didn't mean it that way...

Dude... trust me, he means it every fkin time... not only is the original message calculated, but so is the clean up response.

And even if it was unintentional... it doesn't change the fact he asked his supporters to commit a felony on his behalf... ignorance is not an excuse for the potus asking half the country to commit a felony.
tonygraz
5 years ago

He also corrected himself within a few hours... Biden says stupid chit everyday and it gets dismissed like it never happened... 😟

DrafterX wrote:



There's a difference between an error and an incredibly stupid comment or commentary that suggests people commit a felony or inject themselves with clorox or disinfectants.
Smooth light
5 years ago
Allegories are illustrations of principal,and concepts not true statements of your
comprehension of speech.

Stop twistings it out of context and repeating it as it was real. Perpetrating myths are not true.
RayR
5 years ago

Sophistry.

"So let them send it in and let them go vote..." Do both, see what happens. Illegal. He didn't say mail in your vote and then check the app to see if it was counted and if not then go vote in person. He said do both, see what happens.


Tell yourself whatever you like. It doesn't change what he said. You create your own reality. People don't believe what they see and hear. They see and hear what they already believe. You've created a reality for yourself no different than those other idiots running around burning stuff thinking they're justified.

CelticBomber wrote:



OHHHHH!!!! I'm so sorry, there I go again. I don't see and hear what you want to see and hear. How dare I believe that every new adventure gubment engages in will be FUBAR.
How could mass mail-in voting ever go wrong? Certainly things will work like a Swiss watch, even dead people and illegals will not be able to penetrate. After all everything gubment has done in the past has worked out exactly as they planned and promised. Right?
Smooth light
5 years ago
FUBAR; I recall when the boss asked me what the problem is. Thanks for the memories.

Have a cigar
CelticBomber
5 years ago

OHHHHH!!!! I'm so sorry, there I go again. I don't see and hear what you want to see and hear. How dare I believe that every new adventure gubment engages in will be FUBAR.
How could mass mail-in voting ever go wrong? Certainly things will work like a Swiss watch, even dead people and illegals will not be able to penetrate. After all everything gubment has done in the past has worked out exactly as they planned and promised. Right?

RayR wrote:




I'm sorry, I thought we were talking about what Trump said. Now we're debating mail in votes. Not the fact that he encouraged everyone to commit a felony? It's interesting to watch your reality shift to suit your needs.
RayR
5 years ago

I'm sorry, I thought we were talking about what Trump said. Now we're debating mail in votes. Not the fact that he encouraged everyone to commit a felony? It's interesting to watch your reality shift to suit your needs.

CelticBomber wrote:



WTF! We were talking about mail-in votes because that is what Trump was talking about.
Trump may not always be the most adept at putting words together in sentence on the fly but unlike you I could understand what he was driving at. For you it wasn't in your interest to understand what he was driving at, so you engage in surgically analysing every word looking for a gotcha. Are you sure you're not an operative for the MSM, maybe CNN or MSNBC?
CelticBomber
5 years ago

WTF! We were talking about mail-in votes because that is what Trump was talking about.
Trump may not always be the most adept at putting words together in sentence on the fly but unlike you I could understand what he was driving at. For you it wasn't in your interest to understand what he was driving at, so you engage in surgically analysing every word looking for a gotcha. Are you sure you're not an operative for the MSM, maybe CNN or MSNBC?

RayR wrote:



I can see why you're confused. Every time someone holds up a mirror so you can see yourself you turn away. That way, you don't have to examine yourself to closely. We, that's you and I, were involved in a conversation about what Trump said. We were not debating the merits of mail in voting. We were discussing what Trump SAID. What he said was vote twice, see what happens. That's what he was driving at. Period. He wasn't being philosophical. Is truth beauty? Is beauty truth? That you can interpret 'til the cows come home. We, that's us again, were discussing what the President of the United States said about voting during an election for the office of the President of the United States. I expect more from the "Leader of the Free World" than "Hey everybody, go vote twice for me and let's see what happens!" (wink wink nudge nudge) just kidding! Ha ha! You all know what I mean? Right? (Wink)

You've sunk so much of your ego into supporting this guy it's impossible for you to stop and say "Woah! Slow down their good buddy! I'm your guy but, that was out of line!" This TDS disease everyone keeps talking about? You've got it too. Your symptoms are just different.


P.S. Just so you don't wind up spinning your wheels on the whole "Is truth beauty? Is beauty truth?" thing the answer is no. They're both subjective. You can't afford to spin your wheels on something like that. There's not much tread left on your tires.
DrafterX
5 years ago
Trump clarified his misstatement... why are we still talking about this..??

But OP clearly exposed the risk... 😟
HockeyDad
5 years ago
Voting is gonna be like Covid counting this year!

15 out of 10 people in my county tested positive today and 23 of them died.
DrafterX
5 years ago
Poor bassards... 😞
frankj1
5 years ago

Trump clarified his misstatement... why are we still talking about this..??

But OP clearly exposed the risk... 😟

DrafterX wrote:


what was the clarification?
DrafterX
5 years ago
He said to go to the voting place and see if your absentee ballot had been counted and if you were eligible to vote.. that way if it had been lost your vote would still count... unlike the 1,000 people, who got caught, who purposely voted twice as the OP states... but ya, the news kinda fails to mention it...😟
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