HockeyDad
5 years ago

One day tax experts and the next infectious disease experts, you guys are amazing.

Gene363 wrote:



Don’t forget constitutional law.
rfenst
5 years ago

has Pence been tested yet?

if he has to go into quarantine, will that elevate Secretary of State Mike Pompeo?

delta1 wrote:


Trump
Pence
Pelosi
Grassley
Pompeo
Mnuchin
rfenst
5 years ago

One day tax experts and the next infectious disease experts, you guys are amazing.

Gene363 wrote:


Gene, what is your expertise?
delta1
5 years ago
if peeps aren't willing to express their opinions, whether informed, uninformed, learned or somewhere in the ballpark, this would be a dull and uninteresting place...


sometimes it's thought provoking, if not enlightening to see opinions that are way beyond my perspectives
xibbumbero
5 years ago

Wicked deadly... more than 98.2% of people recover.

Whooooooo... so deadly.

MACS wrote:



Good thing there's no after affects from covid. X 😳
rfenst
5 years ago
There's a big helicopter, Marine One, that is taking him to go to Walter Reid Hospital. For observation. I feel the need for Pence.
dkeage
5 years ago

There's a big helicopter, Marine One, that is taking him to go to Walter Reid Hospital. For observation. I feel the need for Pence.

rfenst wrote:


My nephew is one of the Marine One pilots. He hasn’t flow with POTUS in about a week. Tested negative...
8trackdisco
5 years ago
Americans want the president to die and the Russians want him to live.

A day I never thought I’d see.
frankj1
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5 years ago

Trump

Pence

Al Haig

Pelosi
Grassley
Pompeo
Mnuchin

rfenst wrote:


delta1
5 years ago
hehehe...

there's a little bit of Haig in Pompeo
HockeyDad
5 years ago
Trump didn’t wear masks until at least July. Now he starts wearing masks and gets the Wuhan.

People....they are using masks to spread the ‘Rona!
rfenst
5 years ago
Donald Trump failed to protect America, and himself

“We have it totally under control … It’s going to be just fine.” — Donald Trump, Jan. 22
The president of the United States, the most powerful man in the world, has COVID-19. He failed to protect the country and then failed to protect himself.

The consequences of Donald Trump’s hubris and apathy, for him and about 7.3 million other Americans who’ve been infected, have been dire. Lives have been upended and 208,000 of them were lost. A nation sitting atop what appeared to be a sophisticated public health apparatus and economic juggernaut has been unspooled. Social and political divisions have come to a boil. Racism’s stranglehold on the American experiment has become more overt. And the man who most embodies the conflicts and otherworldliness of 2020 now watches his political future, his personal well-being and his monarchical sense of entitlement circumscribed by a virus wearing a crown.

“It’s going to disappear one day. It’s like a miracle — it will disappear.” — Trump, Feb. 27
One of the many ironies of Trump’s tenure in the Corona era is that he’s a self-described germaphobe. He avoids shaking hands and is easily alarmed — and often disgusted — by anyone showing the slightest symptoms of common colds. He steered clear of his newborn son, Barron, for fear of catching one of his illnesses. Long before COVID-19 began accompanying him on the global stage, he routinely invited aides to squirt shots of sanitizer into his palms. Hope Hicks, a White House aide, was often in charge of Trump’s Purell bottle when they traveled together.

“This is a very contagious virus. It’s incredible. But it’s something that we have tremendous control over.” — Trump, March 15

On Thursday evening, Bloomberg News disclosed that Hicks had tested positive for COVID-19. She had traveled with Trump to his Tuesday debate with Joe Biden in Cleveland and joined him for a rally in Minnesota the following day. Team Trump paraded into the debate forum without masks and refused offers from a local doctor to give them face coverings. Hicks was spotted, mask-less, in a campaign van on Tuesday riding alongside other Trump advisers, including Stephen Miller and Jason Miller. Trump suggested in a TV interview that Hicks may have been infected by contact with overzealous members of the military and law enforcement who wanted to hug and kiss her.

“I see the disinfectant, where it knocks it out in a minute, one minute, and is there a way we can do something like that by injection inside, or almost a cleaning? Because you see it gets in the lungs and it does a tremendous number on the lungs, so it’d be interesting to check that.” — Trump, April 23

The military and federal law enforcement are among many institutions Trump has regularly belittled or savaged during his presidency, animated, as he has been for most of his 74 years, by a surefire belief in his own expertise and a nagging grab bag of insecurities. The courts, media, Congress and a host of other entities big and small have also been punching bags. As the pandemic gained momentum, Trump began bullying federal health and research institutes such as the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, National Institutes of Health and the Food and Drug Administration.

Battered and bruised, they offered inconsistent or incorrect advice to the public and became part of a larger push by Trump to dismiss the severity of the pandemic, which severely hobbled the federal response to the crisis.

“I wore one (a mask) in the back area. I didn’t want to give the press the pleasure of seeing it.” — Trump, May 21[
With public health experts pushed back on their heels, Trump also waged war against the most commonsense tools the public could use to combat the virus, such as masks. In short order, thin strips of cloth became, for broad swaths of the country, don’t-tread-on-me symbols of resistance to an overweening federal government intent on pickpocketing people’s liberty.

“Here’s the bad part, when you test the, when you do testing to that extent, you’re going to find more people, you’re going to find more cases. So I said to my people, slow the testing down please!” — Trump, June 21
As the pandemic has continued to follow its own path, Trump, who wanted to keep escalating COVID-19 metrics under wraps, came up with the novel and incorrect theory that it’s better to test less while mired in an epic public health crisis.

“We’re asking everybody that when you are not able to socially distance, wear a mask, get a mask. Whether you like the mask or not, they have an impact, they’ll have an effect and we need everything we can get … I will use it, gladly … Anything that potentially can help … is a good thing.” — Trump, July 21
After a resurgent virus lit up a number of states last summer — including Florida, Texas, Arizona and California — with spiking positivity rates, Trump had a change of heart on masks. It didn’t last long.

“This thing’s going away. It will go away like things go away.” — Trump, Aug. 5
When Trump hosted the Republican National Convention on the White House lawn in August, neither he nor most of those in attendance wore masks. Attendees were packed together in lawn chairs, including senior members of Trump’s cabinet, mask-less, cheering and not socially distanced. It had all the trappings of what pandemic experts refer to as a super-spreader event.

“We do them outside, we have tremendous crowds, as you see … We had no negative, no negative effect. We’ve had no negative effect, and we’ve had, 35, 40,000, people at some of these rallies.” — Trump, Sept. 29
Trump is older and obese, two factors that make him more vulnerable to COVID-19. Rather than take all of the precautions someone in his situation should have, he continued to stage tightly packed rallies on the campaign trail — and defended that practice when questioned about it during the presidential debate this week. He also used the debate as an opportunity to belittle Biden for wearing “the biggest mask I’ve ever seen.”

“Tonight, @FLOTUS and I tested positive for COVID-19. We will begin our quarantine and recovery process immediately. We will get through this TOGETHER!” — Trump, Oct. 2, 2020
Shortly after lockdowns began in response to the coronavirus, Trump told reporters that he took no responsibility for the failed federal response to the outbreak. That remained a through-line in the months that followed. But the virus now has the president in its grip.

Overseas financial markets were rattled by the news that Trump and his wife Melania were infected, and U.S. stock futures plunged. Hearings for a new Supreme Court justice may be delayed, and there are new uncertainties about negotiations for a federal virus relief package. Trump’s presidential campaign was thrown into further disarray and the possibility that the president may be quarantined or briefly incapacitated gave rise to some ticklish succession issues. Vice President Mike Pence, who hasn’t reported being infected, would take the reins if Trump is unable to function. If Pence becomes ill, House Speaker Nancy Pelosi could possibly assume the presidency.


Trump’s White House doctor told reporters that he expects the president to continue doing his duties, albeit while being quarantined at home with his wife. Trump is a survivor and has been able to power over hurdles before. But for now, reality has caught up with the reality-TV star.
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ABOUT THE WRITER
Timothy L. O’Brien is a senior columnist for Bloomberg Opinion.
HockeyDad
5 years ago
Dow was only down 134 points.
RayR
5 years ago

How is COVID-19 worse than the flu?

What makes COVID-19 so much more dangerous than the flu is that there’s no vaccine and no natural immunity in the world, meaning everybody is susceptible. A flu vaccine is available and effective to prevent some of the most dangerous types of the virus or to reduce the flu’s severity.

Antiviral medications can address flu symptoms and sometimes shorten the duration of the illness.

Unlike the flu, there are no proven antiviral treatments for COVID-19.

In addition, COVID-19 appears to be about 10 times as deadly as the flu. People who contract coronavirus face a far greater risk of death than those who get the flu, according to the World Health Organization. WHO also says that COVID-19 is 10 times deadlier than the H1N1 swine flu strain.

The death rate for flu—usually about 0.1%—is thought to be many times lower than for the coronavirus. The current best estimate for the coronavirus is 1%.

And, because nobody has natural immunity, the number of individuals who could be infected and may have a fatal case of COVID-19 is everybody in the world vs. a subset of individuals in the case of influenza.


https://wexnermedical.osu.edu/blog/how-covid-19-is-different-and-worse-than-the-flu#:~:text=People%20who%20contract%20coronavirus%20face,than%20for%20the%20coronavirus .

rfenst wrote:



You can't trust the WHO, they are owned by the communist Chinese, like the Biden's.
HockeyDad
5 years ago
A masked spokesman for CNN has made the claim that CNN is responsible for infecting the President. The US intelligence community has been unable to independently verify their claim.
RayR
5 years ago

A masked spokesman for CNN has made the claim that CNN is responsible for infecting the President. The US intelligence community has been unable to independently verify their claim.

HockeyDad wrote:



CNN says that's fake news and they don't like the competition.
BuckyB93
5 years ago
Pretty sure the behavior of the market has little to do with the President's illness. It took a header from all time highs in early Sept and has been going sideways since then.

NASDAQ Composite went from around 12,000 to 11,000 in about a week and has been waffling there since then.

Or, if you prefer, it pancaked in early Sept and has pretty much averaged flat since then.
CelticBomber
5 years ago

Wicked deadly... more than 98.2% of people recover.

Whooooooo... so deadly.

MACS wrote:



Yeah! Only 1 Million dead so far... that's a drop in the bucket!



As for Trump testing positive... (Deep Breath) HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Karma! I might actually have to start believing in a God! Anyone have a catalogue? I wanna make sure I pick the RIGHT one.


As for all the 'Stay Classy!" comments. Go screw. Everything's a joke until it's something YOU care about.

bgz
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5 years ago
Yep, my wife and I were just talking about that. Everyone pissing and moaning now would be talkin' mad sh*t if it was the other guy.
Smooth light
5 years ago
3 out of 7 world leaders, the Chinese must be happy. Maybe NOW we will all realize the true threat to the U S and the rest of the world.

FU*K the C C P !!!!!! 🖕🖕🖕🖕🖕
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