DrafterX
5 years ago
I sold drugs.... 😰
frankj1
5 years ago

I sold drugs.... 😰

DrafterX wrote:


me too, but I was older.
different legal issues.
DrafterX
5 years ago
Just kiddin btw.... 😰
frankj1
5 years ago
I knew that....me too?
delta1
5 years ago

Just kiddin btw.... 😰

DrafterX wrote:




you back to work, huh?
frankj1
5 years ago

you back to work, huh?

delta1 wrote:


might be a moving job coming up in DC
DrafterX
5 years ago
Reminds me...

 WA S H I N G T O N, Feb. 8, 2001 -- Former President Clinton and his wife, Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton, have sent $28,000 worth of household goods back to Washington after questions arose over whether the items were intended as personal gifts or donations to the White House.

“We have been informed that it is being shipped back, and the National Park Service is ready to receive it, take possession of it and take custody of it,” Jim McDaniel, the National Park Service’s liaison to the White House, said Wednesday.

“The property is being returned to government custody until such time that the issues can be resolved. It may well turn out that that property is rightly the personal property of the Clintons.”

After they were criticized for taking $190,000 worth of china, flatware, rugs, televisions, sofas and other gifts with them when they left, the Clintons announced last week that they would pay for $86,000 worth of gifts, or nearly half the amount.

Their latest decision to send back $28,000 in gifts brings to $114,000 the value of items the Clintons have either decided to pay for or return.

McDaniel discussed the matter Wednesday with Betty Monkman, the White House curator, and Gary Walters, the chief usher, or executive manager of the White House.

They were reviewing the gifts the Clintons chose to keep after $28,000 worth of items were found on a list of donations the Park Service received for the 1993 White House redecoration project. The Washington Post this week quoted three people who said that they assumed the furnishings they donated for the project would stay in the White House.

“As a result of questions about the status of certain property donated to the White House during the Clinton administration, the National Park Service will accept the return of the property in question and act as a custodian of such property,” according to a statement released by the Park Service, which administers the White House as a unit of the national park system.

A person familiar with the Clintons’ move out of the White House, who spoke on condition of anonymity, would say only: “They’ve been returned.”

While the Clintons’ decision to return these gifts was a way to get out from under this and other criticism surrounding their departure from the White House, the couple provided scant details about the shipment.

Mrs. Clinton’s office referred all questions about the gift return to the former president’s transition office. Transition office workers said the Clintons would make no statement. They referred all questions to the Park Service, which wasn’t exactly sure which gifts were being returned or where they had been kept.

In a statement released Monday, Clinton’s transition office said every item they accepted was identified by the White House gift office as a present to them. They said none of the gifts taken was on a curator’s list of official White House property.

“Gifts did not leave the White House without the approval of the White House usher’s and curator’s offices,” the statement said. “Of course, if the White House now determines that a cataloging error occurred, ... any item in question will be returned.”

Instead of waiting for the issue to be resolved, the Clintons returned the items.

The gifts in question were: A kitchen table and four chairs valued at $3,650 from Lee Ficks of Cincinnati, Ohio; a $1,000 needlepoint rug from David Martinous of Little Rock, Ark.; two sofas, an easy chair and an ottoman worth $19,900 from Steve Mittman of New York; lamps valued at $1,170 from Stuart Shiller of Hialeah, Fla.; and a $2,843 sofa from Brad Noe, a businessman from California.

The gifts were just one of several flaps that followed the Clintons out of the White House:

Lawmakers are questioning Clinton’s desire to rent expensive office space in New York City at government expense. Because of the contention, the former president’s foundation has offered to pay at least $300,000 of an estimated $790,000 annual rent for the office Clinton favors.

Mrs. Clinton, the new senator from New York, has faced questions about the propriety of accepting the gifts in the period between her election and her swearing-in. Senate rules would have limited what she could accept had she been a senator.

Members of both parties also have criticized Clinton for granting scores of eleventh-hour clemency requests, including the pardon of Marc Rich, a fugitive in Switzerland from 51 counts in the United States of tax evasion and fraud.


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delta1
5 years ago
wonder what the value will be of the gain from their time in the WH will be for Trump and his family ???


pretty sure there will be outrage from the left ..........and a defensive shrug from the right...


same goes for the upcoming pardons and clemencies...
Smooth light
5 years ago
Never go back to the"high life"again,
bin there done that, "easy living"and content is the life.
delta1
5 years ago
never experienced the high life...not smart, greedy or inherited enough

had to settle for "easy living and content"...
HockeyDad
5 years ago

wonder what the value will be of the gain from their time in the WH will be for Trump and his family ???


pretty sure there will be outrage from the left ..........and a defensive shrug from the right...


same goes for the upcoming pardons and clemencies...

delta1 wrote:



I heard he was gonna pardon every nonviolent offender that Kamala put into the California prison system.
delta1
5 years ago
DOC union's gonna be pizzed...
DrafterX
5 years ago
Do they drug test the VP..?? 😕
frankj1
5 years ago

I heard he was gonna pardon every nonviolent offender that Kamala put into the California prison system.

HockeyDad wrote:


Make California Black Again?

10 days too late!
Smooth light
5 years ago
"I'm I entitled to it too", said the illegal aliens?

Isn't retirement nice ✌
frankj1
5 years ago
think I was just a bit drunk last night
RayR
5 years ago

we went off topic so I'll just say this...
parents needed them to work because the families were so poor and hungry and why is a whole 'nother subject, but employers would have never hired them if not for the fact(s) that they could fit more of them on the factory floor and pay them almost nothing...and a nearly endless job pooled to boot. Not sure if there was mandatory school during the industrial revolution. Might have cost less than slavery but didn't have to feed 'em.

they didn't pay them so little and work them near death because of good old healthy free market competition led to prosperity, nor did they feel remorse...hence child labor laws.

you're talking about legal age of employment. different topic.
Shoot, I'd put my work ethic and earnings up against anybody's as a kid from lawns, to snow shoveling to newspaper routes to Sunday mornings cleaning out under the glass cases and bringing party trays out to cars at a local deli. Then when (almost) old enough worked weekend afternoons and nights bussing tables and running the dish washer at another restaurant. I was almost 15 when I did that last job.

Not close to looooong hours in a factory which also kept an adult unemployed.

frankj1 wrote:



Frank, the old story of Snidely Whiplash luring the littluns into slavery doesn't work. (except in progressive circles where cartoon explanations for everything is the norm.)
"Parents needed them to work because the families were so poor and hungry" is the subject.
It's the same story everywhere in the world where there are emerging economies whether you like it or not.
And not just in emerging industrial economies, in largely agrarian economies also.
Parents put their kids to work early on the farm and typically have a lot of children. Not just to have more "slaves" to work the fields, but low life expectancy not typically up to your present day Western standards is a reality where poverty and subsistence living is the norm.

Sorry Frank, it isn't child labor laws or minimum wage laws that rises people out of poverty.
Actually Frank, progressive bleeding heart instant solutions to problems by writing words on a piece of paper and calling them the law of the land will more often create worse outcomes.
The infamous case of what happened in Bangladesh is a perfect example.
Even the otherwise kookie pants progressive economist Paul Krugman agreed, "The direct result was that Bangladeshi textile factories stopped employing children. But did the children go back to school? Did they return to happy homes? Not according to Oxfam, which found that the displaced child workers ended up in even worse jobs, or on the streets—and that a significant number were forced into prostitution."
https://www.cato.org/publications/economic-development-bulletin/case-against-child-labor-prohibitions 
Brewha
5 years ago
We need to mandate a working wage from medium and large employers and stop subsidizing Walmart with welfare.

Unbridled capitalism is a no win scenario - unless you are rich....
RayR
5 years ago

We need to mandate a working wage from medium and large employers and stop subsidizing Walmart with welfare.

Unbridled capitalism is a no win scenario - unless you are rich....

Brewha wrote:



Thank you for your opinion Bernie Sanders.
Now go back to dreaming about the socialist Utopia.
frankj1
5 years ago
buy New Balance, not Nike?
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