cexshun
21 years ago
This was pretty funny. Nice to see Slim still has this affect on people.

Are you an expert on ISOMs yet, Slim? It's been 2 years now. LMAO

This post is a riot.
0patience
21 years ago
Sorry to threadjack, but.......

Am I the only one who noticed that Slim is able to put links in his posts and make the letters bold??

I tried to put a greater than symbol in a post the other day and it said that I had put an illegal character in my post.
So what gives??
0patience
21 years ago
Never mind, I just looked at the dates of the posts. LOL!
usahog
21 years ago
Slim can still do this... he is the Master of Discipline!!!!

Remember? LOL

he used to be able to change color fonts also???

Hog
usahog
21 years ago
DOH!!!!!!!

Lord of Discipline is what I meant... LoL

Hog
Nick@Perdomo
21 years ago
Dear Slim:
Some good points. I'd like to make a couple points and I ask your patience in reading them.

Today as you well know Cuba is much different then it was when my family was there and it was a free country. The Cuban cigars of today are not what they used to be and we will leave it at that. The average monthly income of a Cuban roller is about $6.00 to $10.00!! I ask, what incentive does one have to make a quality product when the government is paying these types of meager wages? The Cuban people are starving and it is not because of the embargo. Remember how much Cuban cigars cost? Someone is making a lot of money and you know who it is.

On the counterfeit issue let's say, hypothetically of course, I work at the H. Upmann factory in Cuba and I make THE Monte 4 and I steal filler, binder and wrapper to make 25 more Monte #4's later at my home. My buddy in packaging steals 25 bands and a box. We meet at my house after our 12 hour workday, my kids are crying because they are hungry because of food shortages. Of course my wife is miserable. Remember I made (at best) a total of 43 cents making a couple hundred cigars that will fetch the Cuban Goverment 125.00 (the poor farmers make even less!!). I find a corner in my home, make the cigars, and my friend helps me package them. I go out the next morning and sell them for 30 bucks.
Now why are these cigars counterfeit? Because I didn't make them in the building I have to slave in daily? Is it because my buddy didn't put the bands on perfectly? And you know what me and my buddy made between us? 3 months of pay for just selling that one box of Monte 4s. And the tourist benefits because he just saved a couple hundred dollars. It happens that way all over Cuba, as well as Miami and a lot of other places around the world. To me, those cigar are legitimate, albeit desperately. With regard to cigars made with non-Cuban tobaccos, I agree wholeheartedly with you. At the same time, a lot of them are superior to the real mc'coy in the sense that many are better constructed - many use tobaccos with some time on them - and they draw.

It reminds me of one day about three years ago. My dad and I were in a tourist area in Nicaragua where they were selling two boxes of Perdomo Reserve. We don't sell cigars in Nicaragua. You guy's do a wonderful job consuming them.(Thank You very much) The boxes had no guarantee seals,the bands were not put on right, But you know what? they tasted great because the thief in my factory who stole the materals and packaging used the correct blend of filler, binder and wrapper. To make a real long story shorter we caught the two. And they made real good money working for us. The point is one day Cuba will be producing great cigars. Fields will be rotated and fertilized corectly. Soil analysis will be conducted yearly. And people will earn money in the tobaccoo profession to proud of and be able to provide for their families. Our Europeon distributors bring us Cuban cigars all the time and I have smoked Cuban cigars, some good many that are awful. I have never purchased a Cuban cigar nor will I. My Cuban heritage won't let me knowing that the only one who prospers is the goverment. But one day that will change. So know I recommend that you all enjoy the many great cigars that we as Americans can enjoy. There are many great cigars produced in many countries outside of Cuba. Someone big in the Cuban cigar industry (he will remain nameless so he can live) once told me "the best cigars are made by Cubans - and unfortunately for us, none of them live here anymore." Amen.
You guy's take care.
Nick
Nick Perdomo
President
Tabacalera Perdomo S.A.
www.perdomocigars.com
Nick@Perdomo
21 years ago
Dear Slim:
Some good points. I'd like to make a couple points and I ask your patience in reading them.

Today as you well know Cuba is much different then it was when my family was there and it was a free country. The Cuban cigars of today are not what they used to be and we will leave it at that. The average monthly income of a Cuban roller is about $6.00 to $10.00!! I ask, what incentive does one have to make a quality product when the government is paying these types of meager wages? The Cuban people are starving and it is not because of the embargo. Remember how much Cuban cigars cost? Someone is making a lot of money and you know who it is.

On the counterfeit issue let's say, hypothetically of course, I work at the H. Upmann factory in Cuba and I make THE Monte 4 and I steal filler, binder and wrapper to make 25 more Monte #4's later at my home. My buddy in packaging steals 25 bands and a box. We meet at my house after our 12 hour workday, my kids are crying because they are hungry because of food shortages. Of course my wife is miserable. Remember I made (at best) a total of 43 cents making a couple hundred cigars that will fetch the Cuban Goverment 125.00 (the poor farmers make even less!!). I find a corner in my home, make the cigars, and my friend helps me package them. I go out the next morning and sell them for 30 bucks.
Now why are these cigars counterfeit? Because I didn't make them in the building I have to slave in daily? Is it because my buddy didn't put the bands on perfectly? And you know what me and my buddy made between us? 3 months of pay for just selling that one box of Monte 4s. And the tourist benefits because he just saved a couple hundred dollars. It happens that way all over Cuba, as well as Miami and a lot of other places around the world. To me, those cigar are legitimate, albeit desperately. With regard to cigars made with non-Cuban tobaccos, I agree wholeheartedly with you. At the same time, a lot of them are superior to the real mc'coy in the sense that many are better constructed - many use tobaccos with some time on them - and they draw.

It reminds me of one day about three years ago. My dad and I were in a tourist area in Nicaragua where they were selling two boxes of Perdomo Reserve. We don't sell cigars in Nicaragua. You guy's do a wonderful job consuming them.(Thank You very much) The boxes had no guarantee seals,the bands were not put on right, But you know what? they tasted great because the thief in my factory who stole the materals and packaging used the correct blend of filler, binder and wrapper. To make a real long story shorter we caught the two. And they made real good money working for us. The point is one day Cuba will be producing great cigars. Fields will be rotated and fertilized corectly. Soil analysis will be conducted yearly. And people will earn money in the tobaccoo profession to proud of and be able to provide for their families. Our Europeon distributors bring us Cuban cigars all the time and I have smoked Cuban cigars, some good many that are awful. I have never purchased a Cuban cigar nor will I. My Cuban heritage won't let me knowing that the only one who prospers is the goverment. But one day that will change. So know I recommend that you all enjoy the many great cigars that we as Americans can enjoy. There are many great cigars produced in many countries outside of Cuba. Someone big in the Cuban cigar industry (he will remain nameless so he can live) once told me "the best cigars are made by Cubans - and unfortunately for us, none of them live here anymore." Amen.
You guy's take care.
Nick
Nick Perdomo
President
Tabacalera Perdomo S.A.
www.perdomocigars.com
Charlie
21 years ago
Nick

As usual you have excellent insight and bring a lot to the table in your all too few posts on CBid! Thanks for taking the time to share with us!

Charlie
stogiedude
21 years ago
well spoken nick. good to see you pop up here from time to time
qmech
9 years ago
Another blast from the past with Nick Perdomo making an appearance. This would happen from time to time,that is people from the industry posting. Since I have been away for a while, does the above still happen?
Q
jjanecka
9 years ago
Stop it already. Please stop it.
qmech
9 years ago
Are you a millennial?
Q
qmech
9 years ago
lol 😁😁😁😁😯😯😯😯😁😁😁😁
Q
qmech
9 years ago
Just doing research with a look back to the old crew..
Best
Q
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