deadeyedick
5 years ago

Wondering where all the new electricity will come from to power all our new EV cars...

Rooftop solar is still very expensive, no one is approving any new nuke plants that I know of, so it seems as though we will be burning fossil fuels still, no?

Stogie1020 wrote:



Low hanging fruit. All coal can be fazed out for NG which is about half as dirty. Rooftop solar is not expensive over the life of a mortgage (in fact it pays) but up front cost is for most people and can be rented. Solar arrays are where most of the new electricity will come from where there is infrastructure in place or can be added quickly. Wind also but not as much as solar.

New nukes have been designed that are said to be much improved in waste and safety and are in testing now. (Politics)

Since the average car is on the road for about 13 years we are not getting away from gas any time soon but the shift is going to happen at least for cars and light trucks. Shipping, planes and trucking can't run on electricity with current designs. Batteries are too large and heavy currently.
Smooth light
5 years ago
Take gov control away, and the private sector will figure it out,(panels, charging stations) if there's money in it for them, they will make it so.
Notthe1
5 years ago
Electric cars will be interesting when i switch to it.
Notthe1
5 years ago
My job extended work from home rules till the end of May. It looks like I will have to go back into the office sooner than i would like.

Such is life, at least I can keep making money. Driving into the office will be interesting once I have to drive in again.
Stogie1020
5 years ago

Low hanging fruit. All coal can be fazed out for NG which is about half as dirty. Rooftop solar is not expensive over the life of a mortgage (in fact it pays) but up front cost is for most people and can be rented. Solar arrays are where most of the new electricity will come from where there is infrastructure in place or can be added quickly. Wind also but not as much as solar.

New nukes have been designed that are said to be much improved in waste and safety and are in testing now. (Politics)

Since the average car is on the road for about 13 years we are not getting away from gas any time soon but the shift is going to happen at least for cars and light trucks. Shipping, planes and trucking can't run on electricity with current designs. Batteries are too large and heavy currently.

deadeyedick wrote:




Totally agree on the low hanging fruit, but my limited understanding is that the newly elected administration is making it really difficult (read: expensive) to frack for new NG, so are we are going from energy independent to importing NG from other countries? In terms of mass solar array sites, I am looking forward to this (it should have been done years ago in our neck of the woods) but the problems with distance-transmission loss and off-peak storage are huge. We will get there eventually, but I feel like to great extent we are putting the cart before the horse. I like electric cars, but IMO they are a novelty and not a serious solution to climate issues yet. Plus, I hate hate hate having to figure out which way to put the AA batteries in the little slots in the car. I always get it backwards.
Speyside
5 years ago
There is new wind technology about to come on line from Japan. It will generate 2 to 3 times as much energy. The cost per KW will be less than coal or nuclear. The turbines run down to 1/2 mph wind and the units will be at ground level instead of on towers. Also there is a recent breakthrough in blade design but I have not investigated that enough to have a basic understanding of it.
Abrignac
5 years ago
Jambalaya is on the stove.
Abrignac
5 years ago

There is new wind technology about to come on line from Japan. It will generate 2 to 3 times as much energy. The cost per KW will be less than coal or nuclear. The turbines run down to 1/2 mph wind and the units will be at ground level instead of on towers. Also there is a recent breakthrough in blade design but I have not investigated that enough to have a basic understanding of it.

Speyside wrote:




They finally started bottling cart over there?
Abrignac
5 years ago
OnE fORtY NINE
MACS
5 years ago
deadeyedick
5 years ago

Totally agree on the low hanging fruit, but my limited understanding is that the newly elected administration is making it really difficult (read: expensive) to frack for new NG, so are we are going from energy independent to importing NG from other countries? In terms of mass solar array sites, I am looking forward to this (it should have been done years ago in our neck of the woods) but the problems with distance-transmission loss and off-peak storage are huge. We will get there eventually, but I feel like to great extent we are putting the cart before the horse. I like electric cars, but IMO they are a novelty and not a serious solution to climate issues yet. Plus, I hate hate hate having to figure out which way to put the AA batteries in the little slots in the car. I always get it backwards.

Stogie1020 wrote:



Actually switching our transportation to green tech only takes care of about 16% of CO2 emissions. We produce about 51 billion tons of CO2 equivalent each year. The bigger problems are manufacturing 31% , current energy emissions 27% and growing food and animals 19%.

Every problem we face in going green is huge. If you believe the science the cost of not going green are already here and we haven't seen anything yet.

Without a whole bunch of tech breakthroughs it is looking more and more that we are going to need geoengineering of some sort.
MACS
5 years ago
Afternoon Gennamins... and ladies... and teedub. [gonzo]
delta1
5 years ago
don't interrupt him...


this is his scheduled time for self-pleasuring
Ram27
5 years ago
Evening MAC and peeps.
danmdevries
5 years ago
Slept about a total of 3 hours, in 30 minute increments. Was finally deep asleep dreaming n stuff when the alarm went off.

Back to work.
8trackdisco
5 years ago

Two large cups of Joe to get mentally ready for a 9:00 Zoom meeting. Gonna need it for an hour of meaningless babble.

Edit:
Hunk of cow, taters, carrots, packet of dry french onion soup mix, few peperoncinis-is, garlic (generic pot roast recipe) in the crock pot for eatin later.

BuckyB93 wrote:



You have one, one hour Zoom meeting? I average three a day often five. Count your blessings.
8trackdisco
5 years ago

Wondering where all the new electricity will come from to power all our new EV cars...

Rooftop solar is still very expensive, no one is approving any new nuke plants that I know of, so it seems as though we will be burning fossil fuels still, no?

Stogie1020 wrote:



Clean Coal!

It would be fun to see 98.2 % of Californians with electric cars, and not enough power generating sources.
frankj1
5 years ago
plenty of time.
this will get done and we will breathe easy...easier?
8trackdisco
5 years ago
BuckyB93
5 years ago

You have one, one hour Zoom meeting? I average three a day often five. Count your blessings.

8trackdisco wrote:



Today was one of my days off other than suffering through the Zoom meeting. I SO wish I could record them and show others what an epic waste of time these are. Best I can figure is that someone at home base needs to justify their existence and fill in a check box on some form somewhere.

I'm encouraged to attend at least one of the group meetings per week if I'm available. I straddle two groups so I have a pick of a sucky meeting #1 on Mondays or a sucky meeting #2 on Thursdays. I blew them off for two weeks in a row so I logged in today to simulate my support.
Users browsing this topic