RayR
5 years ago
Are black folk as dumb as white folk? Prolly so.
"public readings of the Emancipation Proclamation"?
I mean like why? it never set any slave free. So why even bring it up?

As the late Walter E. Williams wrote:

"Abraham Lincoln's Emancipation Proclamation was little more than a political gimmick, and he admitted so in a letter to Treasury Secretary Salmon P. Chase: "The original proclamation has no…legal justification, except as a military measure." Secretary of State William Seward said, "We show our sympathy with slavery by emancipating slaves where we cannot reach them and holding them in bondage where we can set them free. " Seward was acknowledging the fact that the Emancipation Proclamation applied only to slaves in states in rebellion against the United States and not to slaves in states not in rebellion."
Speyside
5 years ago
Blah, blah, and blah. ^
NicesmokeQ
5 years ago
Look idiot, black people never should have been slaves in the first place. Tired of bigot ignorant people who are so damn mad that American history did a serious injustice to African people who were brought to the USA against there will.
Deal with it! Not white people of today, but the narrow minded ignorant racist white people back in the 1700 & 1800, etc.

Laws had to be made in America so that black people and people of color can be treated like human beings. You are ignorant as hell RayR. Your type of thinking will keep racism alive and well in America.
Speyside
5 years ago
NQ, shame on you. We have narrow minded, ignorant, dumb, hateful, racist bigots, to this day, as Ray Ray proves daily. They will always exist.
RayR
5 years ago

Look idiot, black people never should have been slaves in the first place. Tired of bigot ignorant people who are so damn mad that American history did a serious injustice to African people who were brought to the USA against there will.
Deal with it! Not white people of today, but the narrow minded ignorant racist white people back in the 1700 & 1800, etc.

Laws had to be made in America so that black people and people of color can be treated like human beings. You are ignorant as hell RayR. Your type of thinking will keep racism alive and well in America.

NicesmokeQ wrote:



I give you true history, even that explained by a black hero of mine, and you say I'm ignorant as hell?

I've got news for you, slavery has been around for thousands of years, and not just black folk were slaves, and it's a lot older than the 1700's in N. America, and it wasn't just white folks who were slave owners, there were black slave owners and Native American slave owners too. So tell me all about the injustice to African people who were brought to the USA against their will when it was African people who sold African people to the European and Arab slave traders.

Not white people of today? But Joe Biden said, ‘systemic racism is one of the 'greatest crises of our time’ and the U.S must ‘eradicate systemic racism’ in his Juneteenth proclamation. Son, it's that pandering blowhard Joe Biden that is keeping racism alive and well in America, not me.




RayR
5 years ago

NQ, shame on you. We have narrow minded, ignorant, dumb, hateful, racist bigots, to this day, as Ray Ray proves daily. They will always exist.

Speyside wrote:



Spey, NQ is being as shamelessly ignorant as you, you don't need to try to one-up him.
bgz
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5 years ago
*subscribed*
RayR
5 years ago

*subscribed*

bgz wrote:



[gofishin]
frankj1
5 years ago

I give you true history, even that explained by a black hero of mine, and you say I'm ignorant as hell?

I've got news for you, slavery has been around for thousands of years, and not just black folk were slaves, and it's a lot older than the 1700's in N. America, and it wasn't just white folks who were slave owners, there were black slave owners and Native American slave owners too. So tell me all about the injustice to African people who were brought to the USA against their will when it was African people who sold African people to the European and Arab slave traders.

Not white people of today? But Joe Biden said, ‘systemic racism is one of the 'greatest crises of our time’ and the U.S must ‘eradicate systemic racism’ in his Juneteenth proclamation. Son, it's that pandering blowhard Joe Biden that is keeping racism alive and well in America, not me.




RayR wrote:


none of which made it right then, nor makes it right today, Ray.
You are using the old "he did it first" or "everyone else did it" childhood claims so as to make excuses for the worst of what humans do to other humans.

America did not have to invent slavery to be responsible for the hideous history of it here.
But most Americans feel we can and should be even better than any that came before us.
tailgater
5 years ago

I'm gonna have a Black Russian.

Krazeehorse wrote:



Mail order?
tailgater
5 years ago
Juneteenth.
Cripes. At least use an actual word.
I guess emancipation was taken. Probably when they tore down the Lincoln statue in Boston. That racist.

DrMaddVibe
5 years ago
Emancipation...that sounds white.
RayR
5 years ago

none of which made it right then, nor makes it right today, Ray.
You are using the old "he did it first" or "everyone else did it" childhood claims so as to make excuses for the worst of what humans do to other humans.

America did not have to invent slavery to be responsible for the hideous history of it here.
But most Americans feel we can and should be even better than any that came before us.

frankj1 wrote:



I know it's so easy here in the year 2021 to say "slavery bad". That wasn't the case back in them olden days.
It might have gotten you in a heap of trouble personably and politically to say "slavery bad", "white supremacy bad".
Just ask old Abe, he couldn't quite say those words himself, probably because he had different priorities personally and politically and often said the opposite.
I'm not responsible for the sins of the ancestors, for good or for bad they were men of their times. I don't need to make scoundrels out of heroes or heroes out of scoundrels to push some modern-day agenda as the pandering pols often do.
I don't need myths, I only need to know what actually happened and learn from it.
Considering the worst horrors of what humans do to other humans has occurred in the 20th Century until now, what has anybody learned?
teedubbya
5 years ago
Yea I think they need to change the traditional spelling of this to something middle aged white dudes like. It’s sort of the point.
RayR
5 years ago

Emancipation...that sounds white.

DrMaddVibe wrote:



I'm old enough to remember when women emancipated themselves by burning their bra's. 😊
frankj1
5 years ago

I know it's so easy here in the year 2021 to say "slavery bad". That wasn't the case back in them olden days.
It might have gotten you in a heap of trouble personably and politically to say "slavery bad", "white supremacy bad".
Just ask old Abe, he couldn't quite say those words himself, probably because he had different priorities personally and politically and often said the opposite.
I'm not responsible for the sins of the ancestors, for good or for bad they were men of their times. I don't need to make scoundrels out of heroes or heroes out of scoundrels to push some modern-day agenda as the pandering pols often do.
I don't need myths, I only need to know what actually happened and learn from it.
Considering the worst horrors of what humans do to other humans has occurred in the 20th Century until now, what has anybody learned?

RayR wrote:


You're glossing over it, Ray. Again you're an apologist using economic and political difficulties (?) as excuses for people of a different time. The stories of American slavery is not made up of myths. I'm not saying you are responsible for historic happenings.

These people of a different time, 100 to 400 years ago, had heard of the Bible, likely most were even literalists or at least profoundly religious, I'm sure you'd agree. And people in Biblical times also enslaved others (THOSE were the real Olden Days)...yet everyone of the critical thinkers in the country from Jefferson to Lincoln probably loved Exodus, which happened to also give them their revered 10 Commandments.

Their souls ignored what their eyes, hearts, and minds told them. They explained it away by convincing themselves that the Africans were truly a sub species. And you're explaining it away as peer pressure and financial risk?

Could others buying into different dogma not say the same things about the brutality in Cuba circa 1960?
Or any other horrendous deeds in the establishment of a new or turned over country?
Applying your standards for early American times to 20th century revolutions would negate much of any legitimacy to your labeling of all who do not share your political philosophy.

It's called moving the goalposts here. When you like it, it was explainable. But when you don't...
Speyside
5 years ago
Tdub, it is a made up word, just like Christmas.
Speyside
5 years ago
Oh, my bad, every word was made up at some point in time. Tail, I think you're correct. The name would be much more meaningful if some old white man picked it. Maybe some high ranking KKK official, as they have had much interaction with black folks over our history.
HockeyDad
5 years ago

Oh, my bad, every word was made up at some point in time. Tail, I think you're correct. The name would be much more meaningful if some old white man picked it. Maybe some high ranking KKK official, as they have had much interaction with black folks over our history.

Speyside wrote:



Robert Byrd?
Speyside
5 years ago
Good choice! Unfortunately I think we need to pick someone alive. Who in congress presently is that warped and evil? Hey, how about Ron Johnson!
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