Your vote is rendered irrelevant because the system is rigged by a winner take all strategy for electoral votes by the R and D teams. That's by design to make it nearly impossible for an upstart 3 party to gain any real traction, to convince the average voter their only REAL options are R or D. and if you choose not to support either the Hitler or Stalin party, you are "throwing away your vote" as the slogan goes.
Agreed, Johnson blew that faster than a $2 whore in 2016, but he never really had a chance anyway because the system is rigged and the majority of the people have been convinced to go along with that... you only have 2 "real" choices game, and if you don't fall in line with that and otherwise choose "none of the above" or a 3rd party, you're a bad person and have wasted your vote. I gladly waste my vote if the only other REAL options are 2 distasteful flavors of progtards.

RayR wrote:

so you agree there were only 2 real options and anything else is a wasted vote but you think i was "grievously misinformed, those were not the only choices everyone else had." Talking out both sides of your arse again i see... you knowingly wasted your vote to what? prove a point to someone that will never know you did it? good for you on that worthless high horse.

drglnc wrote:

Read it again, I did not agree there were only 2 real options. Geesh!
I "wasted my vote" so I don't have to live with the eternal shame of voting for Biden for sure.
For Trump, it was marginally less shameful but was too shameful still for me.
It was not to prove a point to anyone, but a man has to ultimately live with himself after all.

RayR wrote:

so what was the third "real" option then? to waste the vote... that is choosing NOT to make a choice... that is ultimately not making choice by making one that is pointless.

drglnc wrote:

so what was the third "real" option then? to waste the vote... that is choosing NOT to make a choice... that is ultimately not making choice by making one that is pointless.

drglnc wrote:

Ya the duopoly thanks you.
The idea that you are "wasting your vote" is the duopoly talking, don't confuse that for me speaking.
It doesn't follow that not voting or voting for a 3rd party is being pointless or wasting anything. Either one is a valid 3rd option if the other options are inherently immoral and corrupt.

RayR wrote:

so you make NO choice... then complain about the choices that others make... got it.

drglnc wrote:

You were convinced that R or D were the only REAL options.
Your vote is rendered irrelevant because the system is rigged by a winner take all strategy for electoral votes by the R and D teams. That's by design to make it nearly impossible for an upstart 3 party to gain any real traction, to convince the average voter their only REAL options are R or D. and if you choose not to support either the Hitler or Stalin party, you are "throwing away your vote" as the slogan goes.
Agreed, Johnson blew that faster than a $2 whore in 2016, but he never really had a chance anyway because the system is rigged and the majority of the people have been convinced to go along with that... you only have 2 "real" choices game, and if you don't fall in line with that and otherwise choose "none of the above" or a 3rd party, you're a bad person and have wasted your vote. I gladly waste my vote if the only other REAL options are 2 distasteful flavors of progtards.

RayR wrote:

Wait, the founding fathers devised a rigged system?
No way, man.

rfenst wrote:

Some folks make no sense. At this point in time a 3rd party vote steals from the R or D candidate. If you are conservative you vote for the more conservative third party and the opposite if you are progressive. O sense voting third party unless they have a chance to win. It is purely a protest vote and nobody gives a crap. It pains me to say so but we will eventually have to move our residences to create progressive and conservative stronghold states and then resort back to state rule with far more limited federal power. Perhaps the left and right will get philosophically divided enough to make space for a moderate third party

CamoRoon wrote:

Some folks make no sense. At this point in time a 3rd party vote steals from the R or D candidate. If you are conservative you vote for the more conservative third party and the opposite if you are progressive. O sense voting third party unless they have a chance to win. It is purely a protest vote and nobody gives a crap. It pains me to say so but we will eventually have to move our residences to create progressive and conservative stronghold states and then resort back to state rule with far more limited federal power. Perhaps the left and right will get philosophically divided enough to make space for a moderate third party

CamoRoon wrote:

There are only progressives on the left? What about liberals and Democrats who are closer to the middle. They too exist in much larger numbers.

rfenst wrote: