Speyside2
4 years ago
By definition of Wisconsin statute he was innocent. The law was properly decided on by the jury.

Whether the law needs revision is an entirely different question. If it does need change it will not be because of racism or bias. As the laws are not prejudicial if you take the time to read them.

Guilt or innocence is not decided by the court of public opinion. Justice is not about public opinion. It is about the constitution and the rule of law.
Brewha
4 years ago

By definition of Wisconsin statute he was innocent. The law was properly decided on by the jury.

Whether the law needs revision is an entirely different question. If it does need change it will not be because of racism or bias. As the laws are not prejudicial if you take the time to read them.

Guilt or innocence is not decided by the court of public opinion. Justice is not about public opinion. It is about the constitution and the rule of law.

Speyside2 wrote:


Justice?

When was justice ever as simple as a law?
Speyside2
4 years ago
MACS, the shootings were 100% legally justified. From my Christian POV they are not justified. In truth I find nothing in the new testament that would be a justification. In fact just the opposite. Again, no argument intended, just discussion.
Speyside2
4 years ago
Oh, you simply said 100% justified so I do not know your actual meaning.
MACS
4 years ago

I think we are all guilty for letting this kind of sh1t go on in our country. And it shows how deep the division and racism goes.

The court said not guilty.
But I believe the court was biased.

Brewha wrote:



All? No. The left owns that guilt. The left let the riots go on. The left told the cops to stand down. The left wants to release criminals. The left wants to defund the police. The left created this mess and the kid was trying to do what they didn't have the guts to do. Protect people's property.

Me, too... they should never have brought the case to trial, but they were afraid NOT to bring it to trial. So they locked up an innocent kid and attempted to imprison him for life based on lies and fear.

Speyside2
4 years ago
Constitution and law. And yes it is as simple as the combination of the 2. If public opinion was allowed to mete out justice we would have no country, only anarchy. Plus we are speaking about a specific court case. Would you have public opinion decide innocence or guilt? In the same light I expect the Ahmad Abery verdicts to be decided by law, not a Klan mentality.
HockeyDad
4 years ago

I think we are all guilty for letting this kind of sh1t go on in our country. And it shows how deep the division and racism goes.

The court said not guilty.
But I believe the court was biased.

Brewha wrote:



I support your feelings of guilt and again will offer to sell you merchandise professing your guilt at reasonable prices!

Don’t forget: Black Friday specials are coming soon!
Stogie1020
4 years ago

I support your feelings of guilt and again will offer to sell you merchandise professing your guilt at reasonable prices!

Don’t forget: Black Friday specials are coming soon!

HockeyDad wrote:




Soooooo racist... I dunno even know where to start.
Brewha
4 years ago

All? No. The left owns that guilt. The left let the riots go on. The left told the cops to stand down. The left wants to release criminals. The left wants to defund the police. The left created this mess and the kid was trying to do what they didn't have the guts to do. Protect people's property.

Me, too... they should never have brought the case to trial, but they were afraid NOT to bring it to trial. So they locked up an innocent kid and attempted to imprison him for life based on lies and fear.

MACS wrote:


Not that I would make further attempts to ply you with logic, but I am courteous.
Why does “the left let the riots go on”?

Why are people “rioting”?

Is it just cause the left hates America?
Speyside2
4 years ago
How about rainbow Friday?

To insensitive?
Brewha
4 years ago

I support your feelings of guilt and again will offer to sell you merchandise professing your guilt at reasonable prices!

Don’t forget: Black Friday specials are coming soon!

HockeyDad wrote:


You’re a punk HD.
A cleaver opportunist of one, but a punk never the less.
Brewha
4 years ago

Constitution and law. And yes it is as simple as the combination of the 2. If public opinion was allowed to mete out justice we would have no country, only anarchy. Plus we are speaking about a specific court case. Would you have public opinion decide innocence or guilt? In the same light I expect the Ahmad Abery verdicts to be decided by law, not a Klan mentality.

Speyside2 wrote:


For what it is worth, our history has had a number of laws that were not just.

So that fact that a crime was not committed in the eyes of the court does not impress me.

But at least MACS has the clarity of sight to see the true criminals……
Speyside2
4 years ago
There is no vigilante law in Wisconsin, if there was IMHO he was guilty of being a vigilante. We don't get to enforce our personal views of justice on anyone. We write laws and amendments. This is how justice works here. Perhaps you missed my question, should the jurors have found him guilty because you think that would be the just action? Me, I'll stick with the laws and the constitution.
MACS
4 years ago

Not that I would make further attempts to ply you with logic, but I am courteous.
Why does “the left let the riots go on”?

Why are people “rioting”?

Is it just cause the left hates America?

Brewha wrote:



They incite the riots with their media coverage, and leftist politicians incite it with their rhetoric. People are too busy being offended to bother with facts and statistics. They'd rather believe it is raining than believe they're being pissed on. They'd rather burn and loot than listen to reason.
HockeyDad
4 years ago

You’re a punk HD.
A cleaver opportunist of one, but a punk never the less.

Brewha wrote:



I swear I can’t ever make you happy. I was trying to offer you a nice selection of social justice warrior gear but fine….you can just sit there in your pink hat.
Brewha
4 years ago

They incite the riots with their media coverage, and leftist politicians incite it with their rhetoric. People are too busy being offended to bother with facts and statistics. They'd rather believe it is raining than believe they're being pissed on. They'd rather burn and loot than listen to reason.

MACS wrote:


So they were rioting for no reason then - apart from lies, fact stacking and political incitement?

Same as January 6th, then. Right?
MACS
4 years ago
Again... just go with the media on Jan 6th. Don't bother with the mountain of video evidence showing it was not what they claim it was.

And Rittenhouse actually defended himself from armed people, whether it was a gun being pointed at him or a skateboard whacked over his bean... why did that cop have to shoot Ashley in the face? What was her weapon? What was the threat?

Oooooh, that one's cool. Officer was black, victim was white. Nothin' to see here, folks... move along!!
Brewha
4 years ago
well, now that clears it all up I suppose…..
rfenst
4 years ago

Soooooo racist... I dunno even know where to start.

Stogie1020 wrote:


You used to be able to start on Thanksgiving Day, but now you have to wait for Black Friday. [sarcasm]
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