Hey... where's teedub to tell us this is the greatest thing since sliced bread and peanut butter and jelly?

It works! We just don't know the behind the scenes stuff. We couldn't possibly comprehend why a shot that is hailed as great new technology does not protect those who get it from contracting the virus, or spreading it to others.

In fact... read something saying now the majority of hospitalizations are among those who got the shot. Weird, I tell ya...

MACS wrote:

I am on team "all this stuff is theater", but with regard to this particular claim, if the 'vaccine' is generally innefective against Omicron, and the majority of the population has the 'vaccine', it would stand to reason that if the populataion as a whole is impacted by Omicron, that the majority of the infected also have received the 'vaccine'. It's not that the 'vaccine' is leading to the infection (or facilitating it), necessarily, but the underlying factor that the majority of people in general are 'vaccinated'.

it would be like saying that the majority of those hospitalized had received a haircut within the last six months. MOST people have gotten a haircut within the last six months, so yes, the majority of those hospitalized did also receive a haircut.

That reminds me, I need a haircut.

Stogie1020 wrote:

you aren't a lunatic. Even when we disagree, which may not even be the case here.
Just thought I'd tell you that up front.

So many variables when counting numbers as yuuuge as the those relating to this virus. One really needs to take a breath and try to ignore the politics, I think you agree.

Massachusetts has just decided to differentiate daily Covid case numbers in hospitals with two categories...one in which patients admitted were there directly due to Covid, and one in which patients were admitted for anything else (heart attacks, surgeries, etc.) and tested positive for the virus once inside. I like this distinction.

Category two reinforces my long held theory that there are zillions more people infected, and maybe dead, than have been counted/reported, simply due to the fact that such a tiny percent of the population is actually hospitalized at a given moment.

That alone can skew numbers such as real Covid related deaths, as no one has any idea how many thousands or more have died from it if the vast majority have not been tested/recorded or admitted to a hospital.

I personally know of several people who have tested positive at home (followed with repeat testing confirmation later) and those numbers are never accounted for as the tests were not conducted at an official site. I simply can't imagine how many people without even a fraction of the resources available to me and almost everyone here at cbid are now at home sick or have passed away that no one is counting...and I want to stress that we are really talking about every country in the world! Most of them don't come close to our standard of living.

I firmly believe the numbers we read, manipulated or not, are insanely low, both here and around the world.

But I also believe you just need a trim, not haircut. So I could be wrong.

frankj1 wrote:

Yeah, Stogie... that crossed my mind as well. But if we're supposed to believe the shot works, and that mandates are the way to go... what's the point if a sh*tload of people who got the shot are going to the hospital?

My point is, and has always been... it is NOT a vaccine, it has NOT been tested on people until now, it does NOT appear to be working like we were told, and it should 100% be up to the individual if they want to take an experimental shot that is proving to be very ineffective.

And what remains to be seen down the road is... long term effects of mRNA shots.

MACS wrote:

What you do, within acceptable norms, should aways be individual choice.

Speyside2 wrote:

Personally, I do not feel the epidemic was avoidable. ​

Speyside2 wrote:

Got it DOC, different wavelengths. I meant once it got loose it was inevitable. You meant it shouldn't have been there in the first place.

Speyside2 wrote:

^ wonder how this statement will age?


I'll accept as true for the over 60 & co-morbid.

The young, healthy, fit & naturally immune should avoid mrna & big pharma products in general like the plague

Believing the government always acts to protect your safety also not totally advisable

Courage & gray matter aside, no defense needed here for following the science. Which for me is the right thing

Dg west deptford wrote:

So….. it there were a shot to fix stupid, 40% of Americans would not take it.

Because that are so very very smart…..

Brewha wrote:

And what remains to be seen down the road is... long term effects of mRNA shots.

MACS wrote: