I am on team "all this stuff is theater", but with regard to this particular claim, if the 'vaccine' is generally innefective against Omicron, and the majority of the population has the 'vaccine', it would stand to reason that if the populataion as a whole is impacted by Omicron, that the majority of the infected also have received the 'vaccine'. It's not that the 'vaccine' is leading to the infection (or facilitating it), necessarily, but the underlying factor that the majority of people in general are 'vaccinated'.

it would be like saying that the majority of those hospitalized had received a haircut within the last six months. MOST people have gotten a haircut within the last six months, so yes, the majority of those hospitalized did also receive a haircut.

That reminds me, I need a haircut.

My point is, and has always been... it is NOT a vaccine, it has NOT been tested on people until now, it does NOT appear to be working like we were told, and it should 100% be up to the individual if they want to take an experimental shot that is proving to be very ineffective.

And what remains to be seen down the road is... long term effects of mRNA shots.

you aren't a lunatic. Even when we disagree, which may not even be the case here.

Just thought I'd tell you that up front.

So many variables when counting numbers as yuuuge as the those relating to this virus. One really needs to take a breath and try to ignore the politics, I think you agree.

Massachusetts has just decided to differentiate daily Covid case numbers in hospitals with two categories...one in which patients admitted were there directly due to Covid, and one in which patients were admitted for anything else (heart attacks, surgeries, etc.) and tested positive for the virus once inside. I like this distinction.

Category two reinforces my long held theory that there are zillions more people infected, and maybe dead, than have been counted/reported, simply due to the fact that such a tiny percent of the population is actually hospitalized at a given moment.

That alone can skew numbers such as real Covid related deaths, as no one has any idea how many thousands or more have died from it if the vast majority have not been tested/recorded or admitted to a hospital.

I personally know of several people who have tested positive at home (followed with repeat testing confirmation later) and those numbers are never accounted for as the tests were not conducted at an official site. I simply can't imagine how many people without even a fraction of the resources available to me and almost everyone here at cbid are now at home sick or have passed away that no one is counting...and I want to stress that we are really talking about every country in the world! Most of them don't come close to our standard of living.

I firmly believe the numbers we read, manipulated or not, are insanely low, both here and around the world.

But I also believe you just need a trim, not haircut. So I could be wrong.

Are you saying that in America, year 2022, during the covid pandemic, there are people with severe flu-like symptoms that die before they get to a doctor and/or hospital and are never tested despite those severe symptoms? And that this number is large enough to more than offset the number of false (with covid) deaths already counted as "from covid" deaths?

Third world country? Maybe.

But Covid wouldn't be a unique harbinger of death in such places.

I agree that plenty of people have it that aren't tested/counted. Some might even have a sniffle. But the death toll is skewed in one direction only.

Frank, we have people waiting outside in 20F weather for hours.

Just to get a test.

With a result that might tell them to go home and quarantine.

After waiting in line.

For hours.

With other people.

I hope they wore a mask in their car while driving to the test site. Alone.

https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/pressroom/podcasts/2022/20220107/20220107.htm 

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"Estimates of excess deaths can be calculated in a variety of ways, and will vary depending on the methodology and assumptions about how many deaths are expected to occur. Estimates of excess deaths presented in this webpage were calculated using Farrington surveillance algorithms (1). A range of values for the number of excess deaths was calculated as the difference between the observed count and one of two thresholds (either the average expected count or the upper bound of the 95% prediction interval), by week and jurisdiction."

https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/covid19/excess_deaths.htm [/i]

As long as politics is involved...we're NEVER going to get honest information. EVER. That's been the crux of the issue from the beginning when a lot of people (myself included) were looking for data and information on this. We all read what we read here and made our own minds up. Now, with the numbers "supposedly" ready to drop suddenly with Omicron and that it's akin to the flu with it's symptoms...the Perpetual Fauci Mask Shell Game is perhaps coming to a close (https://www.startribune.com/omicron-may-be-headed-for-a-rapid-drop-in-britain-us/600134821/) and the karen's of the world have no room to hide their behavior. Like I've stated before, the world made the Nazis pay for the atrocities of their making...it's time for those responsible to be dragged to justice for their parts in creating this avoidable pandemic.

You KNOW it's not a vaccine...yet, listen to these experts...

https://rumble.com/embed/vovdbr/?pub=4 [/i]

and then there's this from the Pfizer CEO...Pfizer CEO Albert Bourla: "Two doses of the vaccine offers very limited protection if any."

Have NO FEAR...Pfizer has a new Omicron variant available in March!!!

This is a cash grab perpetuated by the US government and agencies of it with drug manufacturers garnering record paydays at taxpayer expense.

Since I have to be cautious about viruses due to my heart, I get flu and pneumonia vaccinations. I will continue to get SARS-COVID2 vaccinations. My choice and I have a logical reason to. If my heart was fine I would not get those vaccinations.

My opinion is... don't be a p*ssy... go out and live, and... good luck, have fun, don't die!

Sorry, Fauci was funding and knew all about the gain of function going on.

This is something that occurs in horrible laboratories where mutations, bioweapons and human centipedes are created.

Unless we're trying to destroy humanity, there's no business in this much less being funded by Americans with taxpayer dollars.

Freedom!

(Fortunately it is currently blocked and making its way through appeals courts)

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Don't wok away from me

Never forget 🤡

Not very well did it.

My girlfriend's son just caught COVID for the THIRD FREAKIN' TIME!!

But not long ago, the RMI eased up on some of the travel restrictions.

Then we had a sorta small wave of covid come through. Had to mask up in indoor public places for a little while.

Several people tested positive and missed some work and were sorta sick for a week or so.

If you tested positive you had to take a minimum of 5 days off and then test again.

I'm not planning to get vaccinated. And I never got tested in the recent wave, since I didn't want to miss work... we already had 2 people out, one tested positive and was fully vaccinated, and one was off island... just leaving me and one other guy and a part time filler-in-guy to cover our 24/7/365 schedule. I felt like I had a mild case of the Kwaj Krud for about a week, but didn't miss work. It passed and all is well.

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HA! This aged well, eh?

Hope you don't get myocarditis...

Myocarditis for one...

We still good with taking experimental shots that DO NOT work?